The brake mechanisms of my car are worn out, don't play around with them. I thought about slowly changing the rear brakes, but after removing the front wheels I realized that the Khan discs have a ventilated disc thickness of 15.3 mm, with the minimum allowable being 17.8 mm. I’m not a racer, I ride on average 40-50 km a day. All wheels (summer and winter) are 13 inches and I don’t plan to switch to 14 wheels yet. So I choose brake discs of 13 radius, ventilated, but without perforation. So far I have found in the store: 1) Alnas - 680 rubles. 2) ATS - 750 rubles 3) VIS (Vazinterservice, AvtoVAZ) - the price is around the first two 4) LUCAS/TRW R13 VENT 4108 - but the price is 1320 rubles. 5) BRAKE DISCS AUTOREAL COMP 2PCS - 940r
I don’t know what to choose from the budget ones. And which pads are best suited to the selected discs (it’s easier with them, there is exist on the edge). What discs and pads do you recommend?
Depending on the configuration, the manufacturer equips Lada cars with different front brakes. We determine which brake discs AvtoVAZ installs on Priora, Granta and Kalina, what is the difference between the front brake mechanisms, and how to very easily improve the brakes without modifications.
Installation of brake pads and discs from a foreign car
Instead of original VAZ brake pads and brake discs, install consumables from a foreign car, for example:
- Brembo brake discs (article: 09.8903.75) or ATE Power Disc 14 (article: 24.0320-0142.1);
- pads from Fiat (article: 13.0460-2813.2) or BMW (article: 180281).
No modifications or design changes to the brake system are required. The maximum that may be required (for example, for pads from BMW) is to slightly file the caliper brackets.
How are these components better? The discs have an increased contact area of the pads, and the brake pads have an increased contact area (by about 25%). According to reviews from car enthusiasts, the installation of imported brake pads and discs had a positive effect on the performance of the braking system.
What kind of feedback can you leave about such a simple brake tuning? Is it worth switching from R13 to R14 brakes and abandoning original spare parts in favor of imported ones? Let us remind you that other useful tips for improving Lada cars can be found in the “Tuning” category. For example, you can significantly reduce noise in the cabin by installing additional door seals.
Serviceable brake discs of thickness specified by the manufacturer are the key to safety on the road. AvtoVAZ has equipped the Lada Granta with a reliable braking system. This allows you to reduce the likelihood of accidents and avoid emergencies on the road. But over time, the disc wears off and a bead appears on its surface. There is a need for replacement.
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This article will help answer all the questions about switching from one brake to another. It will also help you figure out what kind of brakes you currently have. To do this, consider the stock front brakes for front-wheel drive VAZ: 2108-21099, 2110-2112, 2113-2115, Kalina, Priora, Granta
R13 not ventilated. Installed on the SAMAR and SAMAR-2 families, as well as on the 10th family (only with an 8-class carburetor engine). Explosion diagram Caliper
Visually, they can be distinguished by the lack of ventilation on the brake discs, in addition to the characteristic 2108 boot.
Full size General view of the R13 non-ventilated brakes
Here you can see a brake disc without ventilation and a boot
R13 ventilated Installed on families 10, Kalin, Grant exclusively with 8kl. engine. Explosion diagram Caliper
Visually, it is easy to distinguish from 08 by its wider ventilated disk. Brakes from R14 can be visually distinguished by the brake disc boot ratio.
Full size As you can see in the photo, the boot has a larger radius (it is 14
Full sizeAnd here you can clearly see the ventilation on the brake disc
R14 ventilated Installed on families 10, Prior (even with 8kl. ICE), Kalin, Grant with 16kl. engine. Explosion diagram Caliper
Visually it is easily determined by the ratio of the brake disc boot. The disc will completely cover the boot. There is another option, remove the fixed bracket and 2112 should be stamped on it. In addition, it is simply impossible to install wheels of 13 radius.
Full size Disc completely covers the boot. movable and fixed brackets R14R14 close-up brackets with numbers
R15 ventilated Installed on the Kalin and Grant families with 16kl. engine in the sport version. Explosion diagram Standard R13″ ventilated calipers are used (movable caliper 2110, fixed caliper 2110 which is machined to fit a wider brake disc).
And to extend the guide to a larger radius, the plant uses “bone” adapters
When installing them, you need to file the ears on the fist
There is another option that is almost factory-made. Install the Volga calipers using a special spacer. They have their own brake pad, which, in addition to everything, has an even larger area compared to the VAZ one.
Spacers for Volga calipers
RESULT: 1) When moving from R13 non-ventilated to R13 ventilated, you will need: - Caliper bracket 2110 movable 2110-3501017 - Caliper bracket 2110 fixed 2110-3501155 - Brake disc housing right VAZ-2110 (14 inches) 2112-3501146 - Brake disc housing left VAZ-2110 (14 inches) 2112-3501147 — Brake disc VAZ 2110 (13 inches) 2110-3501070 As you can see, we will need brackets, boots and the brake discs themselves. You can leave the old calipers.
2) When moving from R13 non-ventilated to R14 ventilated, you will need: - Caliper bracket 2110 movable 2110-3501017 - Caliper bracket 2112 fixed 2112-3501155 - Brake disc housing right VAZ-2110 (14 inches) 2112-3501146 - Brake disc housing left VA Z -2110 (14 inches) 2112-3501147 — Brake disc VAZ 2112 (14 inches) 2112-3501070 As you can see, we will need brackets, boots and the brake discs themselves. You can leave the old calipers.
3) When switching from R13 ventilated to R14 ventilated, you will need: - Caliper bracket 2112 fixed 2112-3501155 - Brake disc VAZ 2112 (14 inches) 2112-3501070 As you can see, we only need a movable bracket and the brake discs themselves. The calipers can be left as old, the boots were originally designed for R14 brakes, the movable caliper remains the same.
What front brake discs should be installed on the Lada Granta
The front wheels of the Lada Granta are equipped with disc shoe brakes. What makes the pedal informative is that it makes it easy to calculate where to stop.
The power reserve with original parts can range from 50 to 120 thousand km. But sooner or later the need for replacement arises.
You can divide all supplied spare parts into two main categories: original and analogues. The former are more expensive. But at the same time, their maximum mileage is usually an order of magnitude greater than their analogues. There is multi-stage quality control in production. The downside is the high cost. Sometimes it is 2-3 times more than analogues.
General questions about replacing pads on a Grant
Let's consider the main points on the frequency of replacing brake pads and their choice for the car.
Replacement frequency
According to the factory regulations, the front pads are checked for maintenance without replacement. Change only when the following factors appear:
- Strong squeak/whistle when braking.
- Thickness 1.5 mm or less;
- Delamination, charring and staining;
- Brake vibration when driving;
Often they are coated with a layer of material that begins to squeak when braking. This happens as the pad wears out. This is how the mechanism itself signals the need for replacement.
Please note: Brake material may vary depending on the manufacturer. This is fraught with the following:
- Early brake failure;
- Painting of wheel rims in dust from crumbling material;
- Squealing from brakes immediately after replacement;
- Increased wear of brake discs.
New brake pads and old ones
For clarity, we will give examples of wear on the front brakes during operation of the machine.
Wear is visible on the brake part of the old pad. If you do not change it for a long time, severe wear may appear on the disk.
This is what happens to discs when driving for a long time with worn out pads. Sooner or later, such wear will lead to cracks in the disk.
Which brake pads to choose
The factory parameters for the product are as follows:
- Thickness 17.3 mm;
- Width 104.4 mm;
- Height 61.9 mm.
Products from Bosch, Ferodo, LYNXauto and others are suitable for installation.
Original
The advantage is exact compliance with the specified dimensions. After purchasing the part, there is no need to adjust it to size or grind it down:
Name | vendor code | Cost per 1 piece, rubles |
AvtoVAZ | 11180-3501012-10 | From 2 thousand rubles |
Various manufacturers can be the manufacturer of original parts of this type for cars. But the products are labeled as AvtoVAZ. The quality is up to the mark. A special alloy of cast iron is used. It is allowed to use pads whose friction linings include ceramics.
Conclusion
Homemade methods for eliminating defects solve the problem for a while. Part with car parts worth 10–15 thousand rubles. expensive and unfortunate. Someone manages to “extend” the pads by soldering them onto the pads. However, homemade pads tend to come off. A thinned disc can collapse at the most inopportune time.
Advice! Be sure to check the condition of the brakes at a service station and have any discrepancies resolved professionally. This way you can save your life and the lives of your fellow travelers.
Analogs
The selection of replacements for original parts includes several dozen items. The highest quality and relatively inexpensive are the following:
Name | vendor code | Cost, per 1 piece, rubles |
Alnas Sport, ventilated perforated | 2112-3501070-03 | From 1 thousand rubles |
Notched, “PowerDisc”ATE | 24.0320-0142.1 | From 1.5 thousand rubles |
BREMBO MAX | 09.8903.75 | From 1.2 thousand rubles |
What happens if you don't replace the disks on time?
The brake discs on the Grant must be changed in a timely manner. If you do not change it and drive on a heavily worn brake, the part may crack because it is very thin. The pistons may jam. On worn disks, they extend to the maximum depth, and there is a risk of distortion. Cooling will deteriorate significantly and the brakes will be constantly overheated.
Replacing brake system consumables is as important a procedure as updating the engine oil. This won’t take much of your time, but it can save your life in an emergency.
What rear brake discs can be installed on the Lada Granta
Despite the fact that this car belongs to the budget class and is one of the cheapest among those sold in the Russian Federation, it is equipped with rear disc brakes. Which implies the need to replace individual components. The price of parts depends on their type, as well as other factors.
It is important to remember: the front and rear discs differ in the diameter of the mounting holes and other parameters. Installation can be done by yourself. The process itself is simple. But it requires some preparation. It is important to decide on a budget for parts in advance. All of them are divided into two main categories - analogues and originals. They differ in price and quality.
There are many types of discs. These are ventilated, with notches and various others. If the driver practices an aggressive driving style, then you should opt for ventilated models. They cool faster. They have more resources. The replacement process is no different from the others.
Priora or Granta
The price category of Grants and Priors is different. But these cars also have many common features, which complicates the choice. Consider the car interior and exterior. If we take the cars individually, they are better in appearance than the Grant. It compares favorably with the Priora car with its modern design.
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These cars were equipped with identical engines. The only differences are in the configuration. The Granta has a better gearbox than the Priora. The creators updated the Grant and installed a new manual transmission. It is superior to the previous one, and this cannot be ignored. At the moment there are no vibrations in the car, and gear shifting has become more comfortable. Priora and Granta have identical technical characteristics, so fuel consumption will be corresponding.
The interior of the car is presented in European style. It has a high level of comfort and is quite quiet. The only drawback of the Grant is that, after driving several thousand kilometers, the car begins to “crack.” The Grant does not have a sensor that would show the engine temperature. If we talk about safety, the car meets all standards and requirements. Despite these shortcomings, this model is still considered successful. The Granta has an automatic transmission, which cannot be said about the Priora. Priora and Granta have the same high-quality suspension.
But remember that Granta appeared on the Russian car market later, which means its suspension is newer and improved. In addition to all the technical characteristics, the prices of both machines should be compared. Priora is inexpensive compared to Granta. It can be noted as a fairly economical model. Priora is popular among young people. The downside is her stance. Due to the quality of the roads, they simply begin to fall apart. But overall the model is not bad.
Analogs
The cost of original components is an order of magnitude higher than analogues. Therefore, the choice of many vehicle owners falls on substitutes. The most advantageous offers:
Name | vendor code | Cost, rubles |
A.S.P. | 2702220 | 2 thousand rubles. for 1 piece |
B.M. | BDV 885 | 1 thousand rubles for 1 piece. |
Hella | 8DD355109331 | 1.6 thousand rubles for 1 piece. |
Factors influencing the wear rate of discs
- curb weight of the car: the greater the weight, the thicker and more massive the calipers;
- material: cast iron is used as a basis - a mixture of steel and carbon. Modern technologies make it possible to use a number of chemical elements to increase the strength of the material. For example, molybdenum powder. However, the use of impurities leads to an increase in the cost of the part;
- frequency of technical inspection;
- compliance with the rules for using a car;
- style and manner of driving a vehicle;
- climatic temperatures, features of the geographical region.
Replacing front brake discs
The replacement algorithm includes the main steps:
- it is necessary to remove the wheel and jack up the car;
- the old brake pads are removed - to do this, the guide bolts are unscrewed and the caliper is folded back;
- The bracket is carefully hung on the suspension, after which you can begin to remove the disk - two nuts are unscrewed;
- if for some reason the disk cannot be removed from the bolts, you need to lightly hit it with a hammer from the reverse side;
- The new disk is carefully installed.
The nuts are screwed into place. It is advisable to pre-lubricate the threads with graphite lubricant. This will prevent souring. It is advisable to change the pads along with the discs.
Choosing front pads for Kalina
Brake disc size | R13 ventilated | R14 ventilated | R15 ventilated |
Where are they installed? | Lada Kalina and Granta from 8th grade. engine | Lada Priora (8 and 16 grades), Kalina, Granta (16 grades) | Lada Kalina and Granta sport |
Visual differences | The brake disc is significantly smaller than the boot | The brake discs are completely covered by the boot | Installed only on sports versions of Lada cars |
Front brake part numbers | Brake disc 2110-3501070 (13 inches) Movable caliper bracket 2110-3501017 Fixed caliper bracket 2110-3501155 Brake disc housing right 2112-3501146 (14 inches) Brake disc cover left 2112-3501147 (14 inches) | Brake disc (14 inches) 2112-3501070 Fixed caliper bracket 2112-3501155 Everything else is the same as the ventilated brakes R13 | Brake disc (15 inches) 11186-3501070-00 Front brake mounting bracket 11196-350102500 Caliper 21128-3501013-00 and 21128-3501012-00 |
Suitable wheel rims | R13 and more | R14 and more | R15 and more |
Welcome! Brake pads - located in the brake caliper, when you press the brake pedal, the brake wheel cylinders push the pads forward where they come into contact with the brake discs, this causes a lot of friction and therefore the car slows down, the quality of the pads greatly depends on how well the car will stop, and the quality also affects the durability of the brake pads and, of course, squeaking, if the pads are made of poor friction material, then squeaks during braking and similar problems are guaranteed to you, but do not forget one thing, brake pads and brake discs influence each other friend, and if your old pads creaked and you installed new ones, which are from a better company, but the creaking did not go away, then most likely the problem is not in them but in the brake discs and the same with effective braking, namely if the car does not brake well , then this does not mean that the brake pads are to blame.
Note! In order to change the pads, you will need to take: A screwdriver, a chisel, a hammer and of course such things as wrenches, spanners, gloves, a wheel wrench for removing wheels, a jack and the like!
The choice of front brake pads should be treated carefully, since the spare parts market is saturated with low-quality and counterfeit goods. Thus, it is necessary to check the presence of holograms and branded packaging. Inside the box there is always an instruction manual that states who made it and the composition of the friction part.
So, let's look at what front pads are best to use on the Lada Kalina.
Analogs
Now, let's look at possible analogues that can be installed instead of the original brake pads on the Lada Kalina.
Manufacturer's name | vendor code | Average price in the Russian Federation in rubles |
DAfmi | D140IE | 390-450 |
Master-Sport | 13-046D-2965-2-E-SET/4/-MS | 590-630 |
Tomex | 10-361 | 600 |
Mapco | 6502 | 620 |
Pilenga | FD-P2003 | 850 |
Trialli | PF965 | 850 |
Fenox | BP40006O7 | 865 |
Finwhale | V210 | 910 |
Hola | BD811 | 950 |
Optimal | 12075 | 978 |
ABS | 37079 | 1070 |
EGT | 322107EGT | 1150 |
Denckermann | B111048 | 1165 |
LRP | 05P988 | 1165 |
Samko | 5SP988 | 1185 |
LINXauto | BD-4601 | 1200 |
FiT | FP0289 | 1320 |
TRW | GDB1446 | 1350 |
Road House | 2221.02 | 1350 |
Icer | 181308 | 1360 |
Brembo | P41003 | 1700 |
Delphi | LP551 | 1765 |
Girling | 6114461 | 2400 |
Feredo "Premium" | FDB1325 | 3000 |
Based on the experience of motorists and the recommendations of experts, there are several manufacturers that deserve special attention. They make high-quality pads, and their service life, as practice shows, is 30,000 km.
Tuning kits
It is worth considering an alternative option for choosing pads - tuning. Only a few manufacturers produce spare parts for Kalina, which do not require alteration of the chassis. The most famous are: Brembo, Delphi and Feredo. The pads are mounted on standard seats.
For lovers of complete tuning, it offers a complete set of brake systems, which includes: brake discs, calipers and pads. Of course, for full efficiency, it is worth installing everything in one set.
Replacing rear brake discs
The algorithm for replacing rear brake discs is as simple as the front ones. The process is similar. Its main stages:
- it is necessary to remove the wheel to gain access directly to the part - the car is raised on a jack or lift;
- the caliper is removed along with the pads - you can place it side by side or hang it on a spring;
- use an open-end wrench to unscrew two nuts;
- a new disk is installed.
Assembling the caliper, installing the pads - everything is done in the reverse order. It is necessary to ensure that the thickness of the brake disc corresponds to that specified by the manufacturer. If you have difficulty removing the pads, you need to press in the cylinder with a screwdriver. If difficulties arise with unscrewing threaded connections, you need to use WD-40.
Serviceable brake discs affect the driving comfort, vehicle speed and safety. It is necessary to carry out timely inspection and repair of the main components of the brake system.
Factory galvanizing methods
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Discussions about domestically produced cars do not subside. They argue about the Lada Granta, whether the body is galvanized, how the price corresponds to the quality, meanwhile the giant AvtoVAZ continues its strategy of improving the cars it produces and improving galvanization as well.
The factories use the following coating methods:
• thermal galvanizing – the most reliable;
• galvanization, when zinc is deposited from a solution on the surface of parts under the influence of electric current;
• coating with a primer with preliminary application of manganese, zinc and iron salts to the metal surface.