DIY starter repair for Lada Kalina 8 valves


In a car, the starter is a very important component. It ensures that the engine starts by rotating the crankshaft for the first few revolutions. This is necessary to begin the process of ignition of the mixture in the chambers.

Today we will consider this unit applicable to the popular Russian model Lada Kalina. We'll tell you where it is and how to remove it.

Design

The Kalina starter is an electric machine operating on direct current, powered by a battery. During operation, the starter consumes a large amount of current and, if malfunctioning, can often discharge the battery.

The main parts of the starter: armature, rotor, bendix, brushes, retractors. Failure of one of the elements leads to failure of the starter.

Principle of operation

When voltage is applied to the starter by turning the key in the car's ignition switch, current flows simultaneously to the solenoid relay and the starter itself. The starter begins to rotate, and at this moment the solenoid relay moves the moving part of the bendix to the engine flywheel, thereby starting to rotate the engine by the crown on the flywheel, after which the engine starts, the ignition key is released, the current on the starter and solenoid relay disappears, thereby stopping the starter and moving the bendix away from the flywheel.

When is a starter check required?

During operation, the device may malfunction, and therefore the engine will be unable to start. The Lada Kalina car unit is characterized by the following signs of malfunction, suggesting the need for removal and diagnostics for the purpose of further repair or replacement:

  • turning on the starter is accompanied by the shutdown of other devices operating at that time;
  • when the device starts, reduced crankshaft speeds are observed, which is not enough to fully start the engine;
  • turning the ignition key does not activate the starter;
  • the unit shows signs of “viability”, but the motor flywheel does not rotate.

Symptoms of a problem

The starter is not a very complex mechanism and has a small number of parts that fail. Most often, problems with the starter arise due to the following breakdowns:

  • The contact brushes are worn out - this happens due to prolonged use of the starter on the car and most often occurs around 100,000 km. mileage This procedure can be easily corrected by replacing the brushes.
  • Failure of the solenoid relay - the solenoid relay is one of the weakest parts of the starter and fails at different times, regardless of anything. With such a breakdown, the starter rotates, but does not engage the flywheel.
  • Bendix failure - Bendix is ​​a mechanism reminiscent of an overrunning clutch that rotates in one direction, but jams in the other.
  • Broken stator or armature winding.

All reasons except a winding break are easily corrected by replacing the elements with new ones, but if a winding break occurs, it is better to replace the starter with a new one.

What if he doesn't come back

In fact, Bendix ensures long and trouble-free operation of the entire assembly. And if it weren’t for him, then at the moment when you turn off the starter (that is, the car starts), it does not disengage with the engine, which is called “does not return,” then the rotating engine shaft will simply break the starter itself. Which, by the way, sometimes happens when the Bendix malfunctions in the opposite way - that is, the accelerating clutch does not slip, but, on the contrary, sticks and continues to rotate the shaft together with the electric motor. That is, the bendix does not disengage.

And now we are talking about a malfunction when the bendix slips, slips, and it turns out that it works, but its clutch power with the engine is not enough to turn it over and start it. The thing is that heavy loads wear out the teeth of the ratchet gear over time, and the part fails.

It has already been said that this part - the accelerating clutch, popularly called Bendix - functions on the principle of a ratchet mechanism. And the cause of the malfunction, when the gear teeth do not grab and slip when rotating along their axis without achieving engagement, is in the vast majority of cases the banal wear of these very teeth. Indeed, in fact, at the time of operation, these same teeth experience a serious load, since they have to overcome the force of rotation of the heavy crankshaft of the engine, compression of its cylinders, and the like.

Over time, due to such loads, either:

  • ratchet gear teeth;
  • or (if it is not designed with gears, but with two rings with balls, a locking mechanism that works exclusively in one direction and return springs) the rings, balls wear out, or the spring breaks.

And such a malfunction leads to the fact that when the electric motor rotates, a characteristic malfunction occurs: lack of engagement of the starter with the engine.

How to start a car without a starter

If the starter on your car is faulty or the battery is dead, then the car can be started in other ways.

You can try to start the car from a tow, from a hill, etc. turning on the ignition and second gear, this method is relevant for both a dead battery and a broken starter. These manipulations can only be performed with a manual transmission.

If the starter rotates but does not turn the engine, then the solenoid relay is most likely faulty. With such a malfunction, the engine can be started quite simply, just turn on the ignition and bridge the contacts on the solenoid relay, as shown in the picture, and the engine will start.

Prices for the original Lada Kalina starter can reach or even exceed 4,000 rubles. There are a large number of analogues on the market at prices starting from 2000 rubles, but the quality of such parts leaves much to be desired.

Original Lada Kalina starter and analogues


The first versions of the car were equipped with a KZATE starter with article number 21120-3708010-00.
This model of the starting device was fastened directly to the wall of the cylinder block with 3 bolts. Other starters are also suitable for the car:

  • BATE 2109.3708010-01;
  • KATEK 21120-3708045-00;
  • PRAMO-ELECTRO 2110-3708010-81;
  • Valeo 21901-3708051-00 for modification with 8 valves;
  • Valeo 21902-3708056-00 for 16-valve version;
  • Jatco 21902-3708135 for Kalina with automatic transmission.

Prices for devices vary between 3-4 thousand rubles. Foreign devices, such as Valeo, are somewhat better than domestic ones. But they cost an order of magnitude more. Analogues include products from Febi, Fenox, Glaser, Bremi.

Replacement

To replace the starter, you need to prepare a special tool that will be needed during the work process.

Required tool:

  • Screwdrivers, flat and Phillips;
  • Ratchet with heads for “13” and “15” mm;
  • Open-end wrenches for “10” and “13” mm;

Step-by-step replacement instructions

  • We turn off the power from the solenoid relay; to do this, unscrew the power cable with a key and disconnect the connector.

  • Using a ratchet and an extension, unscrew the bolts securing the starter to the gearbox housing.

We perform assembly in reverse order.

Removal and disassembly of the starter

Many experienced motorists practice dismantling the starter on Kalina from under the car.

The following tools and devices will be needed for work:

  • a set of keys in sizes 8, 10 and 13;
  • heads 13 and 15;
  • knob;
  • several screwdrivers with different types of blades;
  • hammer;
  • vice;
  • technical hair dryer;
  • soldering iron;
  • pliers;
  • a drift made of soft metal or wood;
  • current measuring device;
  • lubricant;
  • fine skin;
  • metal plates.

The process of dismantling the device.

  1. Preliminary work. Place the car on the pit. De-energize the battery by disconnecting the terminals from the battery. Remove the air filter housing - it is held on by 2 10 M bolts.
  2. Preparing the starter. Remove the solenoid relay boot. Unscrew the nut of the wire going to the starter from the battery.
  3. Removing the node. Unscrew the starter clamps on the clutch dome - it is easier to remove the lower bolt under the car.

Installation should be done in reverse order.

Important point. The wire to the traction relay is connected not with a screw connection, but with a regular Soviet connector. This is a big drawback, since such a terminal is not protected from moisture in any way, and the wire itself is too short and strained. The consequence is that it constantly breaks off or oxidizes.

Disassembly and reassembly

In most cases, the starter is disassembled for cleaning or replacement:

  • brushes;
  • solenoid relay;
  • Bendix.

Disassembly is done like this:

  • the nut securing the lower bolt of the traction relay is unscrewed - the key is 13;
  • remove the screws holding the relay block - a slotted screwdriver;
  • the armature with the spring is removed from the front cover of the retractor relay;
  • the tightening bolts are unscrewed, the electric motor housing is disconnected from the front cover - the key is 8;
  • the armature is pulled out along with the brush holder and the back cover - the latter is held on by 2 screws;
  • The brush holder is disassembled and the brushes are separated;
  • the cover of the planetary gearbox is removed;
  • 3 gears and a rubber plug are removed;
  • the drive assembly located in the front cover is dismantled;
  • the drive lever is removed by unclamping the eye on the support - the end part of the ring gear must be rested against a wooden block;
  • the restrictive ring of the drive gear is compressed - a hammer and a wrench of 13;
  • The locking ring can also be removed using a flat screwdriver;
  • the limiting washer of the gear travel is dismantled;
  • the overrunning clutch is pulled out;
  • the limiters are removed from the groove on the shaft - first you need to knock the upper ring down using a head, a spanner and a hammer, and then pull out the lower wire washer with a screwdriver;

  • the bearing is dismantled by inserting metal plates between the element itself and the rotor commutator - a vice acting as a support and a hammer are also used.

Next you need to carry out proper troubleshooting. First of all, inspect the anchor. You should check its winding and the external condition of the lamellas. Carefully treat areas with charred parts with fine grain sandpaper. If there are many traces of burning, the anchor will have to be replaced with a new one. Scratches and minor scratches are recommended to be sanded using the same sandpaper.

Advice. The surfaces of the lamellas can be effectively processed if you hold the anchor in an electric drill or screwdriver and run it with sandpaper at low speeds.

Using an ohmmeter, measure the core and windings for breakdown. Pay careful attention to the ends of the coil - they should not be torn from the lamellas or damaged. Windings with traces of burning or separated varnish insulation - urgently need to be replaced! If the technical cardboard inside the stator is wet, you need to dry it with a hairdryer.

You should also replace the brush holder assembly if there is wear on the holder, tension system or brushes. Be sure to clean the structure from old dirt - solvent helps in this matter. Brushes are considered normal if their size is within 6-7x13 mm. Installation of new elements into the holders may be complicated by the influence of the retaining springs.

Disassemble the solenoid relay and clean the nickels. You need a powerful soldering iron for large parts. The main difficulty of this operation is reassembly. It’s important to remember what was there and where. In some cases, nickels are turned backwards.

Video: replacement and repair of Kalina starter

Maxim161In general, today I replaced my half-dead Pramo with the same one (I managed to buy a new one for only 2800). I had already forgotten that sound; I didn’t know that the crankshaft in my Kalina could spin so wildly. Now it really starts with half a kick (although the frosts have receded, but still). I never found a brush assembly for the previous starter, but now I have doubts about the integrity of the armature (after all, the windings were very darkened). And the guides of the positive brushes were slightly welded to the body... How, with such a short circuit, it managed to spin (and I wouldn’t say that it was completely rotten) remains a mystery to me. In general, to summarize, all the problems with starting and the burning smell after the start, and I have already written about these problems in more than one thread - it was all due to the starter. After all, he was twisting, the bastard, but until the last he made him not suspect himself...
IL37The brushes on the PRAMO starter were also worn out; I couldn’t find a brush unit for it in stores. I found information on d2 that the RAU brush assembly for 420 rubles is suitable.
T1000Can you tell me which parts need to be lubricated in the starter? Do I need to lubricate the satellite bushings, the epicycle bushing, and the cover bushing?
Balaga) after a “manual” start, something “jammed” in the starter and it was able to turn over; b) the second time I put on the “trick” better (oh, doubtful). As I understand it, with a “dead” starter, only a “pusher” would help? Wouldn't a screwdriver have helped? The clicks were clearly under the hood. When nothing plowed. I just saw a girl off last night, and on the way I thought, “let me poke the ignition.” He sat down, left the door open and turned the key. And through the open door there are such loud clicks from the hood area. More precisely, with each attempt, 1 click. It somehow reminded me of when in the winter I drained the old battery to zero and tried to start it. At first it’s like “chaf-chaf-chaf”, and then there are clicks, but constant ones. But that was in winter, now there are no chafs - just a click. And one click. I don't know if this description will help. Now the battery is new.
SamoyedThe main reason for the starter “clicking” and not cranking is wear on the surface of the nickels in the starter solenoid relay; the nickel simply cannot close the circuit normally in order to supply voltage to the windings without loss. It is also necessary to check the contact at the battery terminals; this can be determined clearly if the interior light is turned on during startup. It goes out strongly when you turn the key to start - there is not enough power. If it fades just a little, the dimes are in the retractor.
Andrey710Remember - electrics is the science of contacts. I’ll explain how the power supply to the Kalina starter retractor is implemented. The voltage from the battery comes to the contact block of the ignition switch. By turning the ignition switch to the “Ignition on” position, we supply power to the ECU, which turns on relay K3 in the mounting block (this relay supplies power from the ignition switch to the retractor, and when the engine starts, the ECU turns off this relay, thereby preventing the starter twist!) By turning the key to the “Starter” position, power through the contacts of relay K3 should flow to the solenoid. This means where it may disappear or not connect. Check relay K3 in the MB (replace with another one, or replace it with a neighboring one exactly the same in the MB during the tests.) Check the integrity of the terminal block in the connector of the wire coming to the retractor (perhaps the terminal in the chip is soured or there is a broken wire or something else) Check the ignition switch itself. (Perhaps there is no contact at the heels of the Starter group!)

Starter for viburnum 8 valves which is better

This product completes the line of starters for VAZ, and we are pleased to announce that from now on we offer a full range of starters for VAZ and GAZ cars!

LSt 0118
2111-3708010-10 (5702.3708-10, 5121.3708)

for VAZ 2113-2115, 1117-1119 "Kalina" with 8-valve engine (reinforced gearbox)

Specifications:

Starter starting speed, rpm 2800 Crankshaft starting speed, rpm 200 Rated voltage, V 14.6 Rated power, kW 1.55

StartVOLT starters are superior to analogues in the number of successful engine starts and in reducing energy consumption by 30-50%!

Achieved by increasing the number of stator poles to 6 units: MAGNETIC5 technology

Unique design advantages of all StartVOLT starters:

Current collection brushes

• in current collection brushes, which are used in the starter, bronze-graphite is used as a material - a more durable and reliable material compared to graphite).

Gearbox

• the planetary mechanism is made entirely of metal (unlike analogues, which are made of plastic). • hardened steel with increased wear resistance is used, which directly affects the life of the starter. • the design of the planetary gearbox housing has been improved in order to reduce friction losses and improve the balancing of the gearbox-shaft pair.

Bendix

• heat-treated steel with increased wear resistance is used. • the overrunning clutch has an original design that ensures its increased wear resistance.

Solenoid relay

• by increasing the area of ​​copper contacts, the reliability of the relay increases and power losses are reduced.

The design of StartVOLT starters is patented by the Federal Service for Intellectual Property, Patents and Trademarks of the Russian Federation (“ROSPATENT”) Utility model patent No. 102691 dated November 15, 2010. Recommended retail price – 2,700 rubles.

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