Solving problems with an unregulated heater temperature switch for the VAZ-2110

Owners of domestic VAZ 2110, 11 and 12 cars unanimously claim that the stove in these cars is one of the most capricious and problematic units. Considering our frosty winters, you simply cannot do without a working stove in your car, and it breaks down quite often. Therefore, specialized experts recommend that if the heating system fails, immediately contact a car service center or restore the operation of the stove yourself.

Why the VAZ-2111 heater motor may not work

In cars of the 2110 family, ventilation is provided by a supply and exhaust system. Forced air from the fan enters through technological slots in the windshield and exits into the cracks between the upholstery fabric and the panel from inside the car doors. This design significantly improves air circulation and better warming up in winter. So why does it sometimes fail and how to resuscitate it? More on this below in the article.

VAZ 2110: heater control system and its features

VAZ heater system

In the VAZ 2110 car, the heater control system plays a rather important role. If it breaks down, the heater itself stops working correctly. It can heat up the interior too much, or, conversely, not warm it up at all. Therefore, at the slightest breakdown of the control system, it should be repaired immediately or replaced altogether, otherwise it will be impossible to regulate the heating intensity of the car’s stove. On the VAZ 2110, the heating control system can be adjusted independently.

Principle of operation

Due to the lack of a tap, the heating inside a domestic car is controlled by a hot air power damper. The adjustment is automatic, with an accuracy of two degrees Celsius. The damper has proven to be less practical than the faucet, as the latter can jam, stick or freeze. The main flow of heated or cooled air is evenly distributed throughout the cabin - first onto the windshield, and then passes through the deflectors closed with flaps to the side windows. The floor and footwells are heated using a similar principle. There is also an air recirculation system inside the cabin, which prevents an environmental disaster in the car due to unauthorized entry of outside air polluted and filled with road dust.

The stove fan of the tenth family operates in one of three modes: low, medium intensity and automatic selection. The mode depends on the number of additional 0.23 Ohm resistors in operation - one or two. Depending on the speed and air parameters, the digital control unit selects the optimal operating mode of a Soviet-style national air conditioner. The temperature is regulated using a controller. The driver can set the temperature in the range of 16-30 degrees with an interval of 2 degrees. Further, depending on the sensor readings, the fan begins to work with sufficient intensity to quickly warm up the air in the cabin, especially due to long periods of inactivity. In the first minutes after startup, the intensity of operation of the VAZ stove is quite high. Then it gradually decreases.

We are engaged in the drive

Simultaneously with replacing the damper, we check its drive, and if the MMR does not work, it is necessary to either replace the motor or repair it. After removing the trim and lining of the windshield behind the vacuum amplifier of the VAZ 2110, we find the MMR, disconnect two connectors - the MMR and the micromotor.

MMR new sample MMR old sample

Next, unscrew the screws and take out the MMR, from which we remove the motor. Its operation is checked by connecting to the automatic control system.

If you find that it is not working, you can replace it, but repair is also possible. The stages are:

• Partially bending the pressed side, remove the lid;
• Check the condition of the bearings, brushes and commutator;
• Replace or fix them. If the gear teeth of the gearbox are worn out, it needs replacement;
• Bearings require silicone grease.

If after repair the operation of the motor is restored, you can assemble the MMR and install it in place. In the VAZ 2110 this is done like this:

• The MMR lever pin must be inserted into the slot of the lever, which is located on the heater damper drive;
• If the indicated lever is turned incorrectly, you need to apply 12 V voltage with two wires to the contacts of the motor connector (yellow wires fit here), and the lever will move to the desired position;
• After installing the MMR, check how it works, at the same time, how the heater damper drive moves and the heater control lever works to set the temperature in the VAZ 2110 cabin.

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By properly repairing the heater damper and its drive, you will ensure that the operation of the stove becomes stable, providing you and your passengers with the proper level of comfort in cold weather.

Possible problems

If the stove motor is not working well, do not rush to blame it. Of course, it tends to become clogged with extraneous small things - particles of dust, soot and other contaminants. It is enough to do preventative cleaning once or twice a season. Similar procedures must be carried out before the end and at the beginning of the operating season. The temperature sensor may fail. In this case, the movement of the damper is disrupted. In normal mode, it opens at the maximum when the red dot is reached and closes when the blue minimum point is reached. The indicators of normal resistance also differ. Typically the value is in the range of 20-25 ohms. If it goes beyond the limits, the fan may not heat or cool the air properly. A malfunction of the stove fan itself is indicated by unusual behavior. For example:

• Grinding noises during operation and extraneous noises;
• The fan does not start at all;
• Reduced efficiency and volume of air injection;
• I hear the fan is not working well.

The first place in the frequency of breakdowns is occupied by the electrical circuit from the battery to the stove motor. If the cable fails completely, a blown fuse is to blame. Malfunctions of the electric motor at different speeds hint at a blown resistor. And if there are no changes in the operating mode, the diagnosis is obvious - the control controller does not respond. The terminals of various connections may also fail. But if the electrical equipment is normal, then the device will have to be dismantled and thoroughly rebuilt.

The procedure for repairing a stove fan

1. Disassemble the heater motor. First remove the impeller, then the spring clips.
2. Deprive him of support.
3. Remove the brush assembly by unscrewing the screws first.
4. Carefully knock out the rotor.
5. Remove dust and dirt from all elements of the heater motor.
6. Release the bearing by bending the edges of the plate on the inside of the stator.
7. Remove the old bearing #609 and install the new one.
8. Fold back the edges of the plate.
9. Assess the condition of the plate after this procedure and sand the edges if necessary.
10. Remove the old brushes along with the wires. In their place, solder the wires from the new brushes.
11. Bend the brush spring stops to easily return the brush assembly to its place. Set it aside.
12. Replace the heater motor rotor.
13. Reinstall the brush assembly, making sure that the brushes are in their rightful places.
14. Fill the gaps with springs and return the stops to their original position.
15. Reinstall the impeller.
16. Reconnect the electric motor to the stove network.

Replacing self-propelled guns

Control units cannot be repaired - they are simply replaced with new ones. But first you need to make sure that this mechanism is the reason. Instead of a broken one, install a working control unit. Its price is about 1500 rubles. The element is very easy to dismantle: just remove the buttons installed nearby. And then you can remove the device. The handles are set to zero positions and then removed.

The VAZ 2114 heater fan does not work for reasons.

Hello. If you start the car in severe frost or on a hot summer day, and the heater fan on the VAZ 2114 stops working and does not blow, do not be upset, as this problem can be quickly solved by reading this article. In order to understand the reasons why the stove fan may not work, let's first look at the electrical diagram for connecting the stove motor.

Heater fan diagram for VAZ 2114, 2115, 2113.

And so, here is a list of all components of the scheme:

• Mounting block (aka fuse block).
• Egnition lock.
• Ignition switch relief relay.
• Heater fan speed switch.
• Additional resistors.
• Stove motor.
• Rear window heating switch with warning lamp.
• Rear window heating element.

The scheme works as follows. When you turn the key in the ignition switch (2), its unloading relay (3) is turned on. The unloading relay supplies power to fuse f7 in the mounting block (1). After the fuse, power goes to the rear window heating switch (7) and the fan speed switch (4), which distributes which of the resistors (5) the power will go to next. Output 1 from the switch (4) corresponds to the slowest blowing speed, and output 3 goes directly to the heater motor (6), i.e. highest blowing speed.

Leaks

It is not uncommon for the stove to heat poorly due to the fact that the fluid level drops. Be sure, before adding antifreeze, check all the pipes very carefully, especially to see if there are any leaks at the fastening points. But if the heater radiator is leaking, then it must be removed.

Repair is possible, but if replacement is necessary, when choosing a radiator, you should know that aluminum is lighter and cheaper, but copper heats up faster and better, but is heavier and more expensive.

After replacement, be sure to check for leaks from the radiator, as well as at all connections.

Another fairly common “disease” of the VAZ 2110 associated with the stove is that it is very noisy. This doesn’t interfere with the flow of heat into the cabin, it’s annoying, and you expect: something is about to break.

• if the noise is sharp, even “squealing,” the lower part of the heater, which is attached to the hooks, may have come unfastened;
• sometimes it is necessary to replace the stove body if the protrusions that hold the latch are broken;
• The fan is noisy. It needs to be dismantled, cleaned, and its electric motor inspected;
• The textolite washers hum, eliminating the axial play of the fan. You can use washers made from fluoroplastic or other material that provides the least friction to replace them. It is better to lubricate the washers additionally. Some craftsmen use machine oil for lubrication. This helps, but not for long because it is fluid. It is better to use a thick lubricant such as lithol, graphite, etc.

Problems with the heater fan from the electrical part.

In this section, we will consider the circuit to the VAZ heater fan by components.

Fuse.

Let's follow the scheme given at the beginning of the post. If your heater fan does not work together with the heated rear window, then the problem is 100% in the fuse. Check fuse f7 in the mounting block, if it is ok, then use a multimeter to see if the plus is coming to it from the ignition switch unloading relay. To do this, with the ignition on, place one multimeter probe on the fuse and the other on the car body. If everything is in order, look at the circuit from the fuse to the speed switch and the heating switch.

Heater fan speed switch.

We figured out the fuse - let's move on. And then we have the stove motor speed switch. To check it, remove the connector from it. The connector has three inputs nearby and one is located, as if separately from them. We connect any of these three inputs with a wire to the one that stands separately. If the motor starts working, then the speed switch is to blame; if not, we move on.

Additional resistors.

If the fan works, but only at the third (fastest) speed, then the additional resistors are to blame. In the third mode, power is supplied directly to the fan, bypassing additional resistors, so it does not work in other modes.

Heater motor VAZ 2114, 2115, 2113.

If checking all the components listed above shows they are working, the reason is in the stove motor itself. Most likely it is burned out or has a bad mass. To check, we remove it (read how to do this here) and connect it directly to the battery (the black wire screwed to the body is a minus). If it works, it's a bad mass. If it doesn't work, we change the motor.

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Switch, actuator and wiring

Checking that the fan switch is working is a little more difficult. To do this, you will need to remove the control unit and use a tester in ohmmeter mode to diagnose the variable resistance resistor.

To check the electric drive itself, you need to remove the decorative trims near the windshield from the outside and dismantle the electric motor. You can determine its serviceability by connecting the drive contacts directly to the battery terminals.

As for the wiring, its integrity is checked with the same tester in voltmeter mode at the contacts of the fan motor. If there is voltage on them (in the drive on mode), then the wiring is intact. Otherwise, it is better to contact an auto electrician.

How to diagnose a problem with the heater motor assembly (heater fan)

The most common causes of failure of the heater fan (heater electric motor assembly) in a car of the VAZ 2108-2112 family; 2113 – 2115, VAZ -2120 and their modifications produced before 2003?

The design of the heating system on the “ten” is fundamentally different from what was on the old VAZ models. The most important feature and difference of the interior heater is that the VAZ 2110 heater radiator and its fan are located not in the cabin, but in the engine compartment. This design has its advantages, for example, to replace the heater radiator or stove fan, you do not need to completely disassemble the front panel (dashboard).

Another important difference is the electronic control of climate processes in the cabin. For this purpose, the VAZ 2110 is equipped with a so-called automatic heater control system (AHC).

The SAUO unit on the VAZ 210 of different years of manufacture is different. Since 1996, 4 types of SAUO controller have been produced. It is worth taking this into account when purchasing a unit as a spare part. It is this device that controls the temperature in the cabin and the operation of the fan. You can set the temperature from 16 to 28 degrees.

Dear customers, in order to avoid errors when sending an automatic heater control system (AHCS), indicate your car model and year of manufacture in the “Comment” line.

The heater fan does not turn on - it’s very easy to understand: with the car running, turn on the heater at speed. If no additional “noise” appears, then the fan does not turn on. Let us immediately note:

– for VAZ 2108 – 21099; 2113-2115 and their modifications, if the fan does not turn on at speed 1-2, but does turn on at speed 3, then the problem is in the additional resistor or in the heater operating intensity switch.

- for VAZ 2110-2112 and their modifications and their modifications produced before 2003, if the fan operates only in one position 2, an additional resistor on the heater body has burned out, which allows you to regulate the speed - the fan is connected through it in position “A” and 1 .

The main reasons why the heater fan does not work

1. The fuse has blown. The simplest and at the same time the most unpleasant malfunction, because replacing the fuse (active link going to the fuses basket) is very simple, and at the same time, we do not know the reason why it blew.

If the fuse blows, it means there is a short circuit somewhere (short circuit). In this case, you need to go through the entire fuse circuit and look for the source of the short circuit.

A fuse F7 with a current of 30A is attached to the stove. This fuse is also responsible for the cigarette lighter, headlight washer motor, glove compartment light, and heated rear window. So, if a fuse blows, then in addition to the heater fan, the above-mentioned electrical elements of the car will stop working.

2. Poor contact in the mounting block. Poor or oxidized contact in the mounting block is also a common disease. In this case, you need to move the block of flagella going to the mounting block.

3. The ignition relay is stuck. If your heater turns on only when warm, then the problem is in the ignition relay. It’s surprising, of course, how the ignition relay affects the operation of the stove, but the fact remains a fact. The relay needs to be replaced. By the way, it is located under the instrument panel in the center console.

Diagnostics of the heater regulator

Central nozzles

To quickly determine the real cause of the breakdown of the faulty VAZ heater temperature regulator of the tenth family, the first step is to disassemble the central nozzles. In this case, the handle that regulates the direction of the air flow must be placed in the extreme left position. To monitor the operating efficiency of the damper, you should activate the ignition and change the position of the temperature sensor from minimum to maximum (move from the blue dot to the red).

If upon inspection it turns out that the damper is frozen in a stationary state and does not move, it means that the small-sized gearmotor of the heater damper (stove) is jammed in the car. If everything is in order with the gearbox, you need to check whether the device socket is broken. Such breakdowns constantly plague units in which the dampers are made of plastic.

Clogged tubes

Often the breakdown of the temperature regulator occurs due to clogged tubes, which are constantly clogged with all kinds of deposits and sealant. In this case, the car owner needs to check the amount of coolant in the expansion tank.

A low level of antifreeze or antifreeze directly indicates that the substance used is not enough to reach the heater.

To activate the damper (if it is stationary), the gearbox is activated by starting the ignition. You can also try to revive the damper manually.

Damper position sensor

Repair work with the heater regulator of the VAZ 2110, 2111 and 2112 cars is also necessary in the case when the heater operates only in extreme positions. This problem appears when the gearbox operates in standard mode and the shaft itself rotates. In this case, you need to check for faults in the sensor that ensures the correct position of the damper. By changing the position of the temperature switch, the car owner will notice a sharp change in the contact resistance.

A rotating (floating) gearbox shaft and lack of resistance indicate a breakdown of the damper location sensor. In this case, repair is impractical; it is recommended to install a new device.

If everything is done correctly, the control unit controller will begin to operate normally, and the gearmotor will restore its control voltage.

What tools should be used for diagnosis?

You can check the power supply to the engine connector with a regular test. But when carrying out full diagnostics and identifying faults of a high degree of complexity, a multimeter is needed. If you have knowledge of using a multimeter, you can easily measure the power on the connectors and check the resistance, which will make it possible to quickly troubleshoot wiring problems or identify problems with resistors.

In addition, measuring resistance and diagnosing wires in this mode will greatly facilitate the search for a short circuit.

You can diagnose PWM controllers for electrical systems that control fan speed using an oscilloscope. But purchasing this device for diagnostics is not advisable due to its high cost.

Isn’t it better to use the diagnostic methods listed below, which in most cases will help identify the sources of malfunctions in the stove fan without expensive equipment. So let's get started.

If it is impossible to start the fan , this situation occurs due to:

• worn brushes. When performing the functions of a conventional DC motor for a stove fan, the main problem is the abrasion of the brushes, with the help of which voltage is supplied to the commutator. With strong abrasion of the copper-graphite brushes, the pressing spring force that creates the contact is reduced, which in turn leads to the fan operating at a variable frequency. For example, it turns on when you hit the front panel or hit potholes in the road.
• faulty electrical control circuits. The source of the problem is contacts that have been sealed off due to strong heating;
• break in wires, oxidized contact;
• blown fuse element. If a fuse constantly blows (after replacing it), the technician must find a section of the circuit with a short circuit.

Determining the cause of the malfunction and eliminating it

Problems with the stove may occur for the following reasons:

• Coolant is leaking. Due to its lack, the cooling system does not work correctly, including the stove. In this case, a malfunction is observed only during a decrease in temperature. To resolve this problem, you should check the fluid level in the appropriate tank. If it is less than the Max mark, then you should top it up.
• The heating radiator may be faulty. To determine if it works, you need to touch it. As a rule, during the heating process it becomes warm or even hot.
• There may be an air lock in the system. To get rid of this problem, you should make sure that the front wheels are slightly higher than the rear ones. Turn on the engine and leave it like that for a few minutes.
• The heater may be leaking in some places. In this case, its complete replacement is necessary, since it will not be possible to eliminate this problem through repair.
• If the stove “blows weakly,” then the problem may be in the cabin filter. It should be changed.

Note: If you want the filter to remain operational as long as possible, you should install a guard on the air intake.

• It is possible that the controller is not working. The solution is to completely replace it.
• In addition, the heater damper may not always switch on time. Therefore, sometimes instead of warm air there can be cold air and vice versa.

Replacing any part will not be difficult. Typically this process takes no more than 5 minutes. However, a problem may arise during the process of replacing the micromotor gearbox. In this case, you will have to remove the frill, as well as the sound insulation of the engine shield.

Possible problems with the damper

As noted earlier, the stove has several dampers. However, problems can only arise with one of them. To determine which one is faulty, diagnostics should be carried out.

• Pay attention to how the damper moves when switching temperatures. If you hear extraneous sounds during this process, then there is a problem with the damper.
• If cold air blows normally, but hot air does not, then the problem is with the lower damper. At the same time, if hot air flows normally, but cold air does not, then the problem is with the upper damper.

You can determine the causes of problems in the car’s heating system with your own hands, since such work is not at all difficult to do even at home. However, the cost of repairs may vary. After all, several different parts often need to be changed. Sometimes, on the contrary, you just need to clean certain parts from dirt. Of course, before starting repairs, it is worth reviewing photos and videos on this topic. Instructions wouldn't hurt either. In addition, you can use the questions/answers section on many Internet sites.

Self-diagnosis of stove malfunction

If the safety elements are intact, you need to check how efficient the fan is by first opening its power supply connector. The electric motor in the stove is located either in the space under the hood (behind the engine shield near the passenger compartment), or under the dashboard of the car interior.

The location of the heating fan and how to open it are in the vehicle operating instructions. There is also a circuit for starting the fan.

When studying the circuit, you need to find out which of the connector pins of the electric motor is positive when starting the first speed of the fan. Next, any contact of the control device is connected to this pin, another of its contacts is shorted to ground, the ignition system is turned on and the fan switch is turned to any position. If the control lamp turns on, then the cause of the fan malfunction is the electric motor. Otherwise, fan malfunctions occur due to a break in the wiring leading to the heating switch.

The main reasons for the failure of the stove fan

There are many more reasons for failure, they arise for a variety of reasons, we will look at the most basic causes of failure, which even an ordinary car enthusiast who is not involved in professional repairs can eliminate.

The stove brushes are worn out or damaged

In such a situation, you need to disassemble the stove motor and be sure to replace the brushes. To do this, the impeller wheel is removed from the electric motor housing (it is usually secured with latches). If the catalog of automobile spare parts does not contain the necessary brushes, then you can unsolder the old analogues and replace them with identical ones in size. As a last resort, graphite-copper brushes are filed using a needle file.

Malfunctions in the heating system

Now let's discuss why the VAZ 2110 stove may heat poorly.

There are several main reasons for this:

• firstly, the seal in the radiator of the device was broken, which led to a leak;
• secondly, there is no way to change the temperature regime of the heater;
• thirdly, elements of the system such as a gearmotor or damper have failed;
• fourthly, there were malfunctions in the operation of the automatic control system (the unit responsible for controlling the heating system);
• fifthly, the temperature sensor, which is mounted in the ceiling of the car, is faulty.

Winter has come, and many car owners are beginning to notice that their car's heater is not heating well.

This is the wrong approach. It is necessary to prepare the “sleigh” in the summer - isn’t that what folk wisdom says?

Therefore, it is advisable to carry out diagnostics while still warm and, if malfunctions appear, fix them immediately.

How to act if the VAZ 2110 stove does not heat well, read on.

The fan of the VAZ 2107 stove does not work.

Hello. This time I will write about possible reasons why the heater motor on a VAZ 2107 may not work. These reasons can also be attributed to other classic models such as VAZ 2105, 2106, 2101, 2103, 2104.

To check all possible malfunctions, you need to have at least a test lamp, or better yet, a multimeter.

If you find out that it is the heater motor that has broken down, then read the article “Replacing the heater motor in a VAZ 2107.”

To understand what can break and why the VAZ 2107 heater fan may not spin, you need to consider the electrical circuit for powering this motor.

What to do if the stove does not turn on in any speed mode

If the VAZ 2110 stove unit does not work, the problem lies in the operation of the electrical network, since its electric motor is quite reliable and rarely fails. Before work you need to prepare a set of tools:

1. Tweezers for removing fuses.
2. Screwdriver Set.
3. Chain tester.
4. Jumper with contacts.
5. 12 V indicator lamp (control).
6. Wooden stand.

When working with wires, you may need pliers, wire cutters and other standard tools from an auto electrician's kit.

Connection diagram for the VAZ 2107 heater fan.

The diagram below shows how the stove fan (4) . Power from the battery, through the mounting block (1) , goes to the ignition switch (5) and again goes to the mounting block (1) . In the mounting block (1) it passes through fuse F1 (10 amperes) and goes to the stove speed switch button (2) . Next, power from the button goes either through resistance (3) to the motor (4) , or directly to the stove motor (4) .

The VAZ stove fan will not work if any of its circuit components is faulty. You can determine the reason why the VAZ 2107 heater fan does not work:

1. There is a fault in the mounting block.
2. The contacts of the heater fan speed switch are burnt out.
3. The speed control resistance has burned out.
4. There is a malfunction in the heater motor itself.

Let's take a closer look at each of the faults.

There is a malfunction in the VAZ 2107 mounting block.

If the stove stops blowing air, then first of all look to see if fuse F1 in the mounting block is intact. Usually, if this fuse blows, then the heated rear window and reverse lights stop working along with the heater. This fuse must be rated 10 amps . No more and no less. If you install a fuse of less than the nominal value, it will constantly burn out, and if you install a fuse of a higher nominal value, it is possible to burn the mounting block. If you have a fuse of a higher rating (as in the photo below), then the likelihood increases that the mounting block has failed and the plus is not supplied to the speed shift button. How to find out, read the next paragraph.

The contacts of the heater fan speed switch are burnt out.

You checked the fuse and saw that it was intact. Let's dig further. Now we take and remove the gear shift button from the panel and disconnect the wires from it. Afterwards, we reliably one end of the indicator light to ground, and alternately insert the other end into the removed terminals of the wires disconnected from the button. must be on !

If the light does not light up, then power is not supplied to the speed switch and the mounting block is most likely faulty.

If the light comes on when testing one of the contacts, it means either the button or something else is faulty. How to find out? Very simple! To do this, we make a jumper from a regular wire, from the contact, during the test of which the indicator light came on, to one of the other two contacts. The stove motor will work if the button is faulty. If the motor does not work, then it is the motor that is faulty.

The stove only works at one speed VAZ 2107.

When the stove operates only at the highest speed, this means that the ballast resistance has burned out.

In this case, just change it. It is located under the dashboard approximately in the middle, closer to the driver's side.

There is a malfunction in the heater motor itself.

Before disassembling the panel and stirring up the interior, check whether the mass going from the heater motor to the body sits well. It often happens that this wire simply rots.

If you have a multimeter, you can ring it. To do this, take out the speed switch button and disconnect the contacts from it. Now, in the continuity mode, connect one probe of the multimeter to ground, and check the wires with the others one by one. If the motor and ballast resistance are working properly, the multimeter will beep when checking two of the three wires. If the ballast resistance is faulty, then the multimeter will beep when checking one of the three wires, and if the heater motor does not work or does not have contact with ground, then the multimeter will be silent.

If you want to learn how to replace the stove motor, read this article!

I hope you found this article useful. If you have any questions or comments, leave them in the comments.

Design Features

For the VAZ 2110, it is possible to install two types of stoves - new and old. Regardless of the engine used (injection or carburetor), there are no fundamental differences in the designs of the stoves.

But what is the difference between the new and old type stoves? Let's try to figure it out.

• Radiator design. This is the main difference between the devices. Therefore, when replacing a radiator from an old one to a new one, be sure to take into account the installation nuances;
• The controller knob on stoves is slightly different. Old-style heaters have a main problem - they have been discontinued. They cannot be an analogue for 4 and 5 position controllers, which began to be equipped with dozens of them in the fall of 2003;
• The micro-gear motors for the stoves are different, starting in September of the same 2003. The difference lies in the shaft position sensors (resistors). Therefore, when making repairs, make sure that the devices are truly interchangeable and that you bought old-style resistors for your old stove, not new ones. Otherwise the gearmotor will not work.