Once, after parking for a week, the car would not start - the battery was completely discharged...
The battery was removed for subsequent charging and the next day the search for the gluttonous culprit began; the current consumption of the armed car for 3 minutes was an indecent 150 mA.
After suspicions from the signaling were removed, it was time to check the radio (Alpine CDE-170RM): 1. Turn on the radio - the current consumption increased to 530 mA; 2. Turn off the radio - the current consumption dropped to the same 150 mA; 3. We remove the radio socket - the current consumption has dropped to a remarkable 40 mA.
It turns out that the visually disabled radio does not turn off completely and consumes as much as 110 mA, which is too much for the settings memory, however.
Of course, you don’t have to bother and remove the panel every time, but it’s interesting to get to the bottom of the problem.
We check the connection of the power part of the radio to section A of the ISO connector - everything is in order, as per the instructions, although it was confusing that when the ignition is turned off, there is + 12V from the ignition switch on the connector contact, which should not be there, we take it out, look and are surprised:
To figure out what’s what, let’s find the pinout of this connector on the Internet and compare it with the image of the connector:
It is worth noting that not all radios are susceptible to this “problem”; some of them can turn off completely even with this connection, so you need to check.
As always, the Internet helps out - after a short search, a simple and elegant solution was found based on two diodes:
To implement this scheme, we will need to run an additional wire to the radio connector. Since the main consumption of the radio comes through the constant + 12V contact from the battery (usually a thick yellow wire), and the 7th contact simply allows it to be turned on (usually a thin red wire), a wire with a cross-section of 0.5 mm2 was pulled from the fuse box, 31 th contact:
For those who are not familiar with the principle of operation of diodes, I made the following picture:
After all the modifications, the turned off radio no longer consumes current, and to listen to music in a turned off car, you just need to perform 3 steps: 1 - Turn on the ignition; 2 — Turn on the radio; 3 - Turn off the ignition.
The Granta in Standard and Norma configurations comes from the factory without a radio. AvtoVAZ did everything to simplify the installation process: it ran the power and acoustic wires, installed the antenna and threw the wire into the cabin. All that remains is to plug in the speakers and head unit. Let's look at how the Lada Granta radio is installed.
Installation of 1 din radio in Grantu standard and norm
What is needed to install a radio in a VAZ 2190:
- The radio itself is also the head unit;
- flat screwdriver;
- Straight arms.
Abbreviations and symbols in the text:
- GU – head unit;
- MMS – multimedia system;
- DIN (din) – installation size for acoustics in a car.
Step-by-step instructions for installing the head unit
- a narrow flat screwdriver or plastic spatula for installing acoustics;
- 1-din radio with frame.
The seat in Grant is designed for 1 din.
To work with large 2-din sizes, you will need to cut out the partition and install a decorative frame. Step 1 . Using a flat-head screwdriver, remove the plastic plug for the radio. To do this, carefully pry it around the edges and pull it towards you.
The placeholder for the radio is installed from the factory.
Step 2 . On the back of the plug there is a mount for ISO connectors. There are two connectors: music power and wires for the speakers.
Step 3 . If necessary, connect an adapter for your radio to the ISO. Usually it comes included .
If an adapter is not needed , proceed to step 4.
If an adapter is needed for acoustics, it is included in the kit. Example in the picture.
Step 4 . We remove the glove compartment. Holding the glove compartment clamps in the upper position, forcefully lower the glove compartment down.
Overcoming resistance, we pull the lid towards ourselves - the glove compartment is removed.
Removing the glove box on a Grant is easy when you know where its latches are located.
Step 5 . We climb under the panel in the area of the front right passenger's feet with a flashlight. Behind the felt on top we find a thick black wire - at its end there is a plug for the factory antenna.
Removing the standard radio in Grant Lux
The difference between grants of the luxury configuration: the MMS (multimedia system) installed from the factory. This is a 2 din device.
To remove standard acoustic grants :
- take a knife or plastic spatula to dismantle the acoustics and disconnect the decorative trims to the right and left of the radio. It is not necessary to take pictures;
- in the gap between the cover and the panel we find the head unit lock. There are two of them on both sides. Press it out with a screwdriver;
- we take out the GU on ourselves.
Everything is described in detail in the video:
Replacing the standard MMC in Grant
The process - after removing the acoustics, we install a new system.
Difficulties : you may have to finish the fastenings of the new system for VAZ ones. Plus you need the right frame. The factory MMC frame may not fit.
Have you bought a new 2 din radio, but there is no frame for sale? You can do it yourself . Example at the link.
Audio preparation Grants of different configurations
In the “standard” configuration, the Lada Granta has pre-installed power wiring harnesses, which are located in the console opening. Electrical wires are connected only to the radio, so don’t be surprised if you don’t find them in the doorways. To wire to the doors, you will need to pull power wires, which are located under the console panel. In this configuration of the Lada Granta, the stereo system can be installed independently if due attention is paid to it.
In the Lada Granta Norma, the power wires coming from the console are already routed to the doorways. You only need to connect the audio system in accordance with the assembly diagram. It's not uncommon for the stock door wiring to not match up with some speaker connectors. To solve this problem, you need to purchase suitable wires and replace them in the doorway. Lada Granta Norma has a trim with a special pattern for the speakers. Based on it, you can cut the opening yourself.
During assembly at the factory, the Lada Granta luxury version is equipped with a touchscreen multimedia system and speakers. The improved radio tape recorder is complemented by Bluetooth function and a 5-inch display with line output. In addition, the built-in radio allows you to connect a USB 2.0 flash card, through which you can listen to recorded music.
The design of the Lada Granta Lux allows for replacement of the audio system, including speakers. It may be necessary to adjust the opening for the columns in accordance with the instructions.
How to install 2 din in grant norm or standard
Everything is more complicated here. Need to:
- dismantle the center console trim - unclip the fastenings, move it forward and disconnect the buttons and heater handles;
- cut out a vertical plastic partition that will not allow you to install a 2 din device;
- cut down the plastic casing of the central air duct;
- try on a new acoustic unit, adjust the fastenings if necessary;
- install adapters from the delivery kit on the wiring (if required);
- install the device;
- if we leave the old center console trim: we cut out the partition, try it on, put it in place with the buttons and handles connected, adjust the decorative frame of the control unit, install it;
- if we install a new trim on the console under a 2 din device: we transfer the heater control unit and buttons from the old trim, install them in place, and put a decorative frame on the control unit.
Instead of a total
- If we install a simple radio, the size should be no more than 178 * 50 mm. Installation requires plastic spatulas or a screwdriver. Adapters and slides are included .
- To install 2 din, you need a new overlay on the console, a decorative frame on the GU itself, wire cutters and a metal blade to adjust the installation location.
- Are we replacing the standard speakers with another of the same size? Still need a new decorative frame . Otherwise, gaps in the panel will be visible.
More articles about Granta here.
Since the beginning of 2011, all Lada Granta models have been manufactured with audio preparation: factory radios and receivers. The quality of reception and sound is not always at the highest level due to its cheapness and simplicity. When purchasing a Lada Grant from the showroom, the owner receives audio preparation, acoustic wires, and installed electrical wiring.
Choosing the right radio size
We carry out installation either independently or by contacting specialists at the service center. In the second case, the service is paid.
By default, all VAZ and Lada models are equipped with a 1-DIN radio. The opening dimensions correspond to: 180 x 50 mm. This is an old standardization that has been in force since the times of the USSR. Modern audio modules can be purchased complete with a pre-installed LCD display. The size of the opening must comply with the standard: 180 x 100 mm, that is, doubled in height. Size marking: 2-DIN.
To install the radio in the Granta liftback, cut out the top pocket, remove the plastic, and install the assembled module. For a beginner, the process will seem somewhat complicated, so strictly follow the instructions.
What is the functionality of the radio?
The fact that there is a standard radio in the domestic car Lada Granta Lux and in Kalina-2, and the devices are constantly being improved. A special feature of the radio is that it fits deep into the standard place, which is accompanied by minor difficulties when removing it. The large monochrome display displays a user-friendly interface.
Reviews from owners indicate that the software has an operating system based on the legendary Windows, the potential capabilities of which are increased by firmware. It is possible to create a desktop in the image of a household computer and connect to the Internet. To do this, you should use a 3g modem.
If you need to enter data, manipulation can be done using the on-screen keyboard. Own memory is not enough, so to meet the ever-growing demands of owners, it is recommended to use an SD card as a storage medium. This drawback is included in the list of reasons, due to the relevance of which, most motorists prefer choosing a foreign vehicle.
A convenient option for connecting with a mobile phone is available for the Lada Granta radio. This allows you to make calls without having to take your phone out of your pocket. You only need to activate a specific button on the device display. This is a kind of extended “hands-free” function.
The radio receiver is also not without pleasant features. If you program a news wave, the device will automatically switch to it from any other channel when a program on the designated topic begins broadcasting.
In the LADA Granta standard, the radio with an integrated LCD display is capable of supporting such file formats as:
- outdated "MP3";
- "WMA";
- "WAV";
- video files that support the “WMV” extension.
How to connect a Lada Granta head unit with a 1-DIN connector
- We carry out the work inside the car, having previously disconnected the terminals from the battery in order to prevent a short circuit in the circuit;
- We remove the plastic partition - pocket. It covers the hole, preventing objects from falling inside the torpedo. We use a flat-head screwdriver to unscrew the bolts;
- Two ISO plugs are visible behind the partition body. These types of wire terminals are manufactured in accordance with international automotive standards. More than 98% of all automakers use the standard when equipping technical equipment;
- We remove the metal frame - the block - from the body of the audio unit and place it in the cavity of the torpedo.
- We first connect the blocks with wires. Fitting into the connectors is accompanied by a characteristic click;
- We insert the module into the metal frame.
Note to the driver. Incorrect terminal connections result in a short circuit. To ensure the safety of the connection process, the connectors have guides that allow you to install the block in only one position.
Common mistakes when installing a standard Granta liftback radio with your own hands
- when connecting additional terminals, manual twisting of wires is used instead of classical soldering;
- regular insulating tape is used on connections instead of heat-resistant sleeves;
- Incorrect connection of a large number of speakers on one branch leads to overload, heating, and short circuit.
Installing a sound amplifier
By liftback radio amplifier we mean:
- crossover installation;
- subwoofer installation.
The choice is up to the owner of the Lada Grant, as different goals are pursued: cleanliness, sound quality. Obviously, the cost of equipment will also increase. Crossovers are installed in the cavity of the glove box, since their dimensions do not exceed 100 x 150 mm and are rectangular in shape. Subwoofers are fixed in the luggage compartment. Equipment requires more space.
Connection of an external device is carried out strictly in accordance with the operating instructions:
- brown wire color: responsible for the operation of the system;
- black: power supply to equipment;
- yellow: audio module activation;
- red: settings and programming.
At the very end, do not forget to connect a red wire with a pre-installed fuse to the positive terminal of the battery. It directly connects the amplifier (subwoofer) to the current source.
Installing two speakers in the front doors
- dismantle the door card, handle, control unit;
- We compare the standard cutouts for the speakers with the actual dimensions. If necessary, expand with a file or fine sandpaper. It is strictly forbidden to use cutting objects, as there is a high risk of damage to the plastic of the door card;
- we check for the absence of roughness in the hole, install the speaker, fix it, connect the standard terminals with wiring;
- we check the operation of the speaker, install the door card, and fix the metal grille to protect the speaker from mechanical damage.
Installing speakers in a car
In addition to the radio itself, you will need to correctly place and connect the audio speakers.
Installation of the rear and front speakers is carried out according to the same scheme. To do this, you will need to cut openings in the door trim, so for ease of installation you need to remove them. The upholstery is removed in the following sequence:
- the door handle is removed;
- The plastic casing under the handle is removed;
- the adjusting handle for raising the glass is removed (only for Lada Granta Standard).
The stock upholstery has 16 cm diameter openings that are specifically designed for speakers. Certain difficulties may arise if you decide to install speakers of other sizes.
For speakers with a diameter of 13 cm, you will need to cut out the central plug in the door trim. The layout diagram is included with the speaker kit. Having understood the intricacies of a particular model, you will have to slightly increase the plane of fastening of the tongues, since standard openings are larger.
Speakers on the rear parcel shelf of a car
Speakers with a diameter of 16 cm are most often easy to install, but sometimes the sizes do not match. In this case, it is necessary to adjust the metal opening allocated for installing the speaker using an electric jigsaw. After each adjustment, be sure to try on the column, as it is very important not to overdo it in this matter.
After successful installation, you will need to connect power and check the functionality of the speaker. Then you can install the door trim back. A protective grille is placed over the column, which must be secured with self-tapping bolts.
Choose speakers with a flat surface. Otherwise, they will interfere with looking into the glove compartment; to do this, you will have to open the front right door every time.
Characteristics of the standard radio "Lada Grants Liftback"
The radio for the Lada Granta liftback is supplied as standard equipment. Product in 2-DIM format (100 x 180 mm).
In addition to the classic radio, there is a built-in card reader, Bluetooth, and a USB output for connecting flash drives. The only disadvantage of the audio module is that it is a push-button type. Which is not to the liking of many car enthusiasts, which is why they install more modern modifications.
During the startup of the audio module, a greeting from Lada Kalina 2 is displayed. This is not an error, as many owners think. This type of audio was originally developed for the Lada Kalina 2. Obviously, the manufacturer did not change anything and started production for the Granta. Installation/disassembly of the module is somewhat complicated due to the tight fit, so be prepared for this.
The main differences between coaxial and component acoustics
- Coaxial: a single design of speakers, where low-frequency and high-frequency are mounted on the same axis. Depending on the type of preinstalled crossover, one, two, or three-way crossovers are distinguished.
- Component: consists of a number of individual different-frequency speakers that are installed throughout the vehicle interior.
Related link:
Recommendations for installing the EUR on the Lada Granta. List of faults and ways to eliminate them
It is better to install coaxial ones on the back row of seats, component ones - in the front. The cost of coaxial speakers is a third cheaper than component ones.
How to flash the firmware
- Buy an SD card, format it in FAT, exFAT format;
- We download the firmware for free on the manufacturer’s official website;
- We save the data in the root directory of the SD card;
- We insert the SD card into the slot on the radio, start it, wait for the update to finish;
- Turn on and off the module;
- We customize the new interface for ourselves.
If the firmware is installed incorrectly, additional screen calibration using the CAN bus will be required. It is impossible to do this yourself, only in a service station. After successful flashing, the following is available:
- graphic equalizer;
- viewing photos, pictures, videos;
- improved sound quality;
- possibility of installing a navigation system.
Disadvantages of a standard radio
- Outdated firmware from the “box”;
- Not all options are initially available;
- The need for periodic software updates;
- Push-button interface.
Reviews
Module type | Price, rub.) |
Standard 1-DIM (push-button version) | from 3500 – 3700 |
Standard 2-DIM (sensor) only for Lada Granta liftback | from 7500 – 8000 |
Third party manufacturers, depending on configuration and specifications |
№ | Positive |
1. | Victor, 39 years old: after buying the car, he did not change the radio, despite the push-button control option. The sound quality is good, the radio reception is excellent, that's enough for me. |
2. | Konstantin, 41 years old: bought the car second-hand, second owner. I didn’t change anything, I left the original radio. The functionality is good, the build quality is also good, it reads from a flash drive. |
3. | Vasily, 44 years old: I listen to the radio more, the reception in the city is good. True, it causes interference near metal structures, but this is natural. |
4. | Kirill, 36 years old: I work as a taxi driver, on wheels all day. The standard tape recorder saves the day, it works properly. My friends recommended replacing it with a touchscreen model from the new Granta, but so far the old one hasn’t failed. |
Negative | |
1. | Victor, 38 years old: the standard audio module, although not bad, seemed to me not enough, so I replaced it with a foreign one and supplemented it with an amplifier. Now the volume is good, the quality is high. |
2. | Mikhail, 42 years old: I work as a courier, I drive for the entire shift. I expected more from the standard radio, so I had to replace it with a new one. The volume suits me, I plan to connect an amplifier - a crossover. |
3. | Ivan, 33 years old: I bought the car second-hand, immediately replaced the audio module, the reviews are not good. New and high-quality equipment from Trinity, no problems. |
4. | Vladlen, 40 years old: friends gave me a gift in the form of a radio with touch control for our anniversary. Before this there was a push-button one. Can't compare, quality, sound, control, functionality at a high level. |
Conclusion The opinions of motorists on the functionality and sound quality of the standard radio are divided, which is obvious. Everyone evaluates according to their own criteria. Some people care about sound, others about functionality, and others about control. Regardless of the type of radio: push-button or touch-sensitive, the workmanship is good. No massive breakdowns or defects were recorded. Maintenance is not expensive, parts and components are available both at official representative offices and on the Internet. Now it will not be difficult for the owner to remove the radio on the Granta liftback with his own hands without contacting a service station.
Comprehensive selection of speaker components
The main criteria when choosing components are the cost of the speaker system and the quality of musical sound reproduction. Qualitative criteria are always subjective and relate to personal preferences. System settings help to achieve the required frequencies, sound timbres, and volume balances from good equipment.
The phased installation of acoustics in a car, as a rule, begins with increasing the power of the speakers. In this case, you need to take into account the technical capabilities of the standard radio, which limit the total sound power. The real power of standard factory radios does not reach 30 W, so installing hundred-watt speakers is pointless. MP3 and WMA decoders are also not suitable for creating powerful musical sound of excellent quality. Compressed formats allow you to fit a large number of songs on a disc, but noticeably degrade playback quality. A significant portion of high and bass frequencies are not transmitted, and the natural overtones of musical instruments are lost.
High-quality car audio tuning involves installing a special car multi-channel amplifier, additional devices: crossovers, equalizers, remote bass controls, filters, high-level inputs.
When choosing an amplifier, the main criteria are:
- power supply reliability
- parameters of the input signal processing block
- availability and quality of drivers
- output signal block characteristics
When choosing car amplifiers of classes “A” and “B”, it is necessary to take into account the significant heat generation due to the magnitude of the operating currents. Such models must be selected with cooling fins located on the outer surfaces of the amplifier. For digital class “D” these devices are not important; the compact amplifier does not overheat. When choosing a two-channel compact amplifier, pay attention to the well-known brands Calcell, JVC, Mystery, Pioneer, Blaupunkt, models that sell for $60 - $90.