Shoots at the carburetor: the main causes of the malfunction, what to do, problem solving, repair

Concurrent symptoms

As a rule, the situation is accompanied by a number of other signs:

  • unstable operation of the internal combustion engine in idle mode;
  • difficulty starting;
  • loss of power and throttle response of the power unit;
  • rapid overheating of the motor;
  • increase in fuel consumption.

Note also that in such a situation the car accelerates poorly. When you press the accelerator pedal, jerks, dips, and delays appear. The car jerks a lot, especially in transition modes. The power plant does not so much work as “sneeze.”

Rich mixture

When the engine runs on an over-enriched fuel mixture, a coat of black soot appears on the electrodes of the spark plugs. If there is a lot of carbon deposits, then at high temperatures it can cause a portion of the mixture to ignite at the wrong time. This will also cause popping and firing as the intake valve will still be open at this time. The malfunction only manifests itself when the engine is hot. Gradually, the engine will sneeze more and more often. But the power will practically not drop - this can be observed in very rare cases.

High-voltage wiring and OZ

It is recommended to start diagnostics with the ignition system. All armored wires must be thoroughly tested, because disorganization of the placement of spark plug outlets will easily lead to chaos in the supply of sparks to the cylinders of the engine unit. It is when the high-voltage wires are mixed up and unstable operation of the internal combustion engine is observed, shooting into the carb, etc.


Why does the engine fire the carburetor?

There are special marks on the ignition distributor cover. They are intended to indicate the exact wiring diagram. This point with the spark plug outputs must be checked, and only then proceed to the settings of the OZ.

If early ignition is set, then shooting into the carburetor should definitely be present. This can be explained simply - the impulse passes too quickly, the fuel assembly is ignited not at the moment the compression process is completed, but in the phase when the piston approaches TDC.

A knocked down OZ creates a situation where the mixture burns out untimely and the combustion process is disrupted. The lumbago increases and can also radiate into the exhaust system (with late ignition). The worst thing is that the burning out of the remaining fuel assemblies spreads to fresh charging doses. This mixture enters the engine from the carb during startup, and it begins to overheat greatly.

Early ignition

You can determine the settings of the OZ that have been disrupted by the candles, or rather, by their color. A white coating on them or the appearance of soot will be a signal for the driver, who must check and set the correct ignition by adjusting the OZ. The distributor is adjusted by turning it.

The distributor itself can also become a reason to shoot into the carb. Often it deteriorates or problems arise due to a breakdown of the cover, failure of the slider or armored wiring at the points of their connection.

It is recommended to check the magnetic regulator and pay attention to the distributor bearing. During the diagnostic process, it would be correct to use an initially functional distributor and carry out diagnostics on it. This will allow you to quickly and accurately localize device problems. The same actions are carried out with the switch, because if it malfunctions, the entire spark formation process is disrupted.

What to do if the engine shoots into the carburetor and muffler

The appearance of popping noises in the muffler and carburetor is usually accompanied by a whole list of other symptoms:

  • the engine “shoots” and does not start;
  • work at XX is extremely unstable;
  • the engine loses power and does not “pull”;
  • the motor is prone to overheating;
  • fuel consumption increases noticeably;

In this case, the unit’s response to pressing the gas pedal is not clear; delays and dips appear; the machine may jerk under load and in transient modes. In the language of ordinary car enthusiasts, the engine begins to “sneeze.” If the carburetor shoots when starting the engine, and the additional symptoms described above are also present, then certain elements and settings should be checked.

Diagnostics of the ignition system and OZ settings

The check should begin with the high-voltage wires of the ignition system. Violating the order of their connection will lead to the fact that the moment of spark formation on the spark plug will not occur at the end of the compression stroke, and the very order of supplying sparks to the cylinders during engine operation will also be disrupted. In this case, the engine may start, but during operation there will be shooting in the carburetor, which will be repeated at certain intervals. To solve the problem, you should connect the wires to the spark plugs, taking into account the fact that there are special marks on the distributor cover. These labels will help you make connections in the correct order.

Lean fuel assembly

Operating a carburetor on a lean fuel assembly often becomes a source of popping noise a priori. This is due to the combustion process itself, which in this case occurs slowly. Symptoms of this type of malfunction are similar to ignition failures. The poor fuel assembly burns after a new intake stroke begins.


Lean fuel mixture

A lean fuel assembly is almost the main reason for overheating of the power plant. The pop is created first in the intake, and only then the sound is transmitted to the mixing chamber of the carb.

The root causes of the formation of a lean fuel assembly must be sought in the carburetor itself, fuel lines, filters or in the fuel pump. As a rule, this is due to air penetration into the system or clogging of the jets, which are the main components - dispensers.

It is also important to be able to check at what level the fuel is in the float chamber. Often something similar happens due to the curvature of the float.

At the same time, it would be a good idea to test the accelerator pump. This part of the carburetor can also play a role when shots appear. This is especially true if it shoots when you press the gas pedal.


Carburetor accelerator pump

If the problem is related to the carburetor and its components, then sometimes it is enough to treat the inside of the device with an aerosol spray to clean the metering devices. After that, all that remains is to properly adjust everything. It would also be a good idea to replace the fuel filters.

Switch failure

Typically, a breakdown of the switch makes it impossible to start the engine, so popping noises will be observed when trying to start. To diagnose, just install a new device. If the motor stops firing, then the switch needs to be replaced or repaired. What to do depends on the type of breakdown and the capabilities of the car owner.

Very often this malfunction can be detected at an early stage. The engine speed begins to fluctuate, and when you sharply press the gas pedal, the car accelerates with dips in traction. Small popping noises are heard from the engine compartment.

timing belt

Shots in the carburetor often appear after repairs at a service station. A crookedly installed mechanism belt is the reason for this. Needless to say, this negatively affects the entire gas distribution process. A phase failure occurs and the fuel assembly burns out untimely.


Timing belt

The problem is “treated” by correctly aligning the belt to the marks. If the rubber has lost its original properties, then it is advisable to replace such a part with a new one.

The reasons for shooting into the carburetor and troubleshooting are clearly visible in the table.

Cause of malfunctionWhat's happeningWhat to do
High voltage wires are connected in the wrong orderThe spark will not jump on the compression stroke as expected, but on other strokes, since the sequence of operation of the engine cylinders will not be observed. Moreover, the internal combustion engine can even start and run for a while, periodically shooting into the carburetor. In such a situation, you should reinstall the wires from the spark plugs into the distributor cover starting from the installation mark on it counterclockwise in the order: 1-3-4-2.
Ignition too lateLate ignition, when the spark jumps too late during the compression stroke and combustion of the working mixture occurs throughout the entire subsequent power stroke, and not just during compression. At the moment when the intake valves begin to open, the old fuel mixture still burns out and ignites a new portion of the fuel assembly coming from the intake manifold and carburetor on the intake stroke. There is a pop in the carburetor. A side effect is engine overheating and white spark plugs. Set the correct ignition timing
The distributor is faultyA “broken” cover, slider, high-voltage wires, or faulty Hall sensor can lead to improper engine operation in different modes. It is also possible that the bearing holder is loose or the ignition distributor bearing itself is worn out. In such a situation, to quickly diagnose a malfunction, the easiest way is to temporarily replace the distributor with a known good one.
The ignition system switch is faultyCorrect and timely sparking in the ignition system is disrupted.Replace the switch with a known good one.
The timing belt jumped 1-2 teethThis situation is possible after repairing the engine, replacing the timing belt, or when the timing belt is loose or worn. Again, combustion of the fuel mixture occurs when the intake valves are open, which is accompanied by a “shot” into the carburetor. The timing belt needs to be reinstalled.
Lean fuel mixtureIf a lean fuel mixture enters the engine, flashes (popping and sneezing) in the carburetor are possible. The reason for this is the slow combustion of the lean mixture. While the intake stroke begins in the cylinder after the exhaust stroke (the intake valve opens), the combustion of the fuel mixture continues in the combustion chamber. The incoming fresh combustible mixture ignites, and combustion spreads through the intake manifold in the form of a flash, causing popping noises in the carburetor mixing chamber. In such a situation, you should check the fuel level in the float chamber, the cleanliness of the air and fuel jets.

General manifestation of the malfunction

Popping noises in the carburetor may appear under the following circumstances:

  • after engine repair;
  • there was an accident or a pothole on the road;
  • tuning or simply adjustment of the carburetor was carried out;
  • the car has high mileage.

In this case, a malfunction may occur in the following cases:

  • when you press hard on the gas pedal;
  • after parking, with a cold engine;
  • on the go under load;
  • when trying to start the engine.

Depending on the reason that caused the carburetor to shoot, popping noises can appear either abruptly or gradually, increasing in intensity daily. Operating a car when the engine sneezes into the carburetor, in addition to discomfort for the driver, can lead to the need for major engine repairs.

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Hurik

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Hello. I have a VAZ21063 with a contact ignition Solex carburetor, the car started shooting at the carburetor when the 2-chamber was opened. I myself understand the ignition and the carburetor. I washed, blew out the carburetor, rebuilt the trampler, adjusted the valves, set the ignition, checked the compression to 10 in all, changed the spark plugs and wires, none of the above helped. Help who can.

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Help who can.

lean mixture, early ignition, insufficient closing of the intake valve

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I'll add a blown gasket between the manifold and the head.

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Did you set the distributor according to the marks?

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lean mixture, early ignition, insufficient closing of the intake valve

I changed the 2-carb plus adjusted it, set the ignition earlier and later, checked the valves twice, measured the compression at 10 in all. Nothing has changed.

Hurik

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I'll add a blown gasket between the manifold and the head.

the engine runs fine at XX, the tasol does not go away, the spark plugs c1-4 are red, the engine does not run louder. The car began to shoot at the carburetor when opening the 2nd chamber. What is the problem with the gasket between the manifold and the head????

Hurik

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Did you set the distributor according to the marks?

Yes, according to the marks.

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Yes, according to the marks.

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The vacuum corrector was checked to be normal, I even tried turning it off, no change.

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spark plugs s1-4 red

It is better to replace spark plugs with red insulator. Over time, they begin to break through to ground.

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I’ll get into the conversation, try to pull out the choke a little, and you’ll go for a ride. It’s quite possible that he’ll stop shooting, if he stops I’ll tell you what’s going on next))) If he continues to shoot, I won’t be able to do anything to help. And even if the car is warmed up, still open the choke a little while driving.

Hurik

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I’ll get into the conversation, try to pull out the choke a little, and you’ll go for a ride. It’s quite possible that he’ll stop shooting, if he stops I’ll tell you what’s going on next))) If he continues to shoot, I won’t be able to do anything to help. And even if the car is warmed up, still open the choke a little while driving.

The choke really helps and the engine stops firing! what’s the matter??? share your guesses, is it really possible that the carb is fucking brains....?

Protva

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It's also interesting to know what the reason is. I can only assume that somewhere... I won’t guess. Waiting for Sorrel

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Hurik

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It is better to replace spark plugs with red insulator. Over time, they begin to break through to ground.

The spark plugs have nothing to do with it, I changed the same canoe.

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Do you have a temperature regulator? Today I personally encountered popping noises (in Moscow today it was -12), all this was due to the supply of Cold air, (I didn’t have a thermostat on the 9th) I installed it, the popping noises disappeared. So the problem with popping noises is that Pts gets into the carburetor. cold air. check the thermostat, maybe it hasn’t been working for a long time...

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If five carburetors have already been changed and there are no changes, then the problem is not with them (c).

In my opinion, you need to completely change the SZ distributor + coil. Take known good ones and see what changes. Start by replacing the coil; if that doesn’t help, change the distributor assembly.

I had a similar problem - that in the end it hurt - no one could explain. Some shouted that the capacitor on the distributor was broken, others that its bearing was jammed... It ended with the transition to BSZ. The troubles are over.

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In the winter, with the air cap turned off, my air pump would stall for the winter. You drive and drive, and suddenly the engine stalls. You wait for 10 minutes and you can go again. I turned the lid to winter time and that was it. And SZ has nothing to do with it. This is the same as trying to eliminate rear axle noise by changing the pump bearing.

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Idk... I drove around all winter with the switch turned off =)

and now the pan has been sawn apart =) it doesn’t seem to stall or fire...

although... there is... it happens... the scolex began to shoot (rarely, really, very rarely). I didn't notice this with ozone.

Hurik

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Idk... I've been driving around all winter with the switch not turned =)
but now the pan has been sawn apart =) it doesn't seem to stall or fire...

although... there is... it happens... the scolex began to shoot (rarely, really, very rarely). I didn't notice this with ozone.

What kind of Solex, and what kind of jets are they?

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Solex 83-51... rebuilt =D

top from 83 regular, bottom from 83-51. I bored out the diffusers to 2324. I don't remember the jets.

seems like this:

TZh1 107.5 VZh1 150

TZh2 115 VZh2 165

(I can’t find a standard repair kit for 21053-20 =((( )

I installed the current accelerator nose from the Niva and that’s it.

Hurik

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Guys, does anyone have a Solex08 without modifications on the 11th engine, and with what jets? Otherwise I’m stuck... surf the forums, one has some tariffs for jets, another has different ones, huh.. you’ll understand which ones are needed. I have

GTZH 1.K-97.5 GTZH 2.K-97.5 GVZH 1.K165 GVZH 2.K125

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AU...... Is it really possible that 518 people who read the topic cannot answer the last question asked!!!!!!!!!!!

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What does carb have to do with it? The chain is ground off faster and the phases are delayed. This includes closing the intake valve during early ignition. They put it on early because the engine doesn't work (?).

Hurik

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What does carb have to do with it? The chain is ground off faster and the phases are delayed. This includes closing the intake valve during early ignition. They put it on early because the engine doesn't work (?).

My friend, you didn’t understand me, the problem with shooting into the carb was solved by increasing the valve clearance. Now the problem is the following, I recently installed a Solex 08 since my native ozone has worn out in 21 years, the jets on the Solex are as follows

GTZh 1.K-97.5 GTZh 2.K-97.5 GVZh 1.K165 GVZh 2.K125, at xx the engine is like a clock, on the 1st chamber it runs great, but on the 2nd chamber the car becomes stupid, jerks and there is no acceleration. Carb soap was blowing through the effect 0. What's the matter? Maybe the level in the PC or the jets is not what it should be?

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It is necessary to adjust the fuel pump pusher (either it sticks out a little or is worn out, if it is worn out, replace it with a new one) and this will most likely help. As a rule, the malfunction is on the surface - you just need to think about it.

Carburetor not tuned

Often the reason that the engine shoots into the muffler is an incorrectly configured carburetor. Its task is to create a fuel-air mixture, which is then supplied to the engine. If it is configured in such a way that the mixture is oversaturated with gasoline, a situation similar to that described above is created. The solution here is to check and adjust the “carb”.

The first step is to check the fuel level in the chamber where the float is located. Each carburetor is individually adjusted and has its own level. However, if its cover is removed, the float should be flush with the level of the cover. If this is not the case, adjust the level. Also be sure to check the integrity of the float . If it is damaged, fuel may leak into it, causing it to display the level incorrectly.

The reason that the carburetor shoots into the muffler may also be the jets. They are either configured incorrectly or become clogged over time. If the air jet does not supply enough air, the mixture becomes oversaturated with gasoline with the result described above. Often this malfunction occurs when the engine goes from idle to higher speeds, or with a sharp increase in speed (acceleration). It is necessary to check the condition of the jets and clean them if necessary.

Air/fuel ratioDescriptionA comment
6/1 — 7/1Extremely rich mixture. Ignition failure. Rich mixture. Long burning, low temperature.
7/1 — 12/1Overrich mixture.
12/1 — 13/1Rich mixture. Maximum power.
13/1 — 14,7/1Slightly enriched mixture.Normal mixture.
14,7/1Chemically ideal ratio.
14,7/1 — 16/1Slightly lean mixture.
16/1 — 18/1Poor mixture. Maximum efficiency. Poor mixture. Fast combustion, high temperature.
18/1 — 20/1Over-lean mixture.
20/1 — 22/1Extremely lean mixture. Ignition failure.

Thermal clearances

Among the reasons for broken thermal clearances are engine repairs, as well as untimely maintenance.

During the repair process, the distance between the pusher and the cam was accidentally or deliberately reduced. Moreover, before the repair work, the car started without any extraneous sounds.

If the gaps are not adjusted in time, the surfaces shrink, wear out, and become deformed. If the thermal clearances are not adjusted in time, then shots into the carburetor are inevitable.

In the first option, shots can be heard during test runs after repairs have been made. In the second option, the breakdown manifests itself gradually. Initially, popping noises in the carburetor when you press the accelerator sharply appear rarely and do not last long. Then, over and over again, the duration of the claps increases.

To diagnose incorrect thermal clearances, they need to be checked using feeler gauges. If the car has been driving for a long time with incorrect clearances, then nothing bad will happen. If the car has been used for a long enough time, then the edges of the valve plates burn out - in this case there is no way to do without repairs. Fire will enter the intake manifold even if the valves are adjusted correctly.

Fuel system overflow

When the carburetor delivers too much gasoline, some of the fuel and air mixture enters the exhaust manifold and the engine shoots out the exhaust pipe. Typically, such a problem is diagnosed by the pronounced smell of gasoline in the cabin and under the hood, as well as by the black sooty electrodes of the spark plugs. At the same time, black smoke comes out of the exhaust pipe, often mixed with soot.

The first thing to do is check the air filter. When it is heavily clogged, the engine draws in more fuel than necessary. It could also be that the needle valve inside the float chamber has lost seal or that the pump diaphragm has ruptured.

If there is an excessive supply of gasoline, the idle speed fluctuates or increases to 2-2.5 thousand per minute. When releasing the gas while driving, the problem of shots also arises if the speed is turned on.

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Inlet valve

A bent or burnt valve is unable to seal the combustion chamber from the carburetor. Loose pressure of the plate to the seat allows gases to break into the intake manifold. In some cases, the fresh air-fuel mixture ignites.

To diagnose the problem, you need to check the compression. If a cylinder is detected with a suspected combustion chamber leak, it is necessary to fill it with engine oil. This will prevent excessive wear of the cylinder-piston group or sticking of the piston rings. A cylinder with a damaged valve shows the same compression both with and without oil.

To eliminate the malfunction, it is necessary to dismantle the cylinder head and replace the valve. If the valve is bent, it is recommended to check the correct timing of the timing belt. Burnout of the valve with low mileage also requires searching for the cause of this breakdown.

If you have hydraulic boosters, you should also check their operation. Sticking of the hydraulic compensator leads to the same consequences as burnout of the valve. In this case, shooting into the carburetor may not be observed all the time, but during certain periods, for example, when the engine is cold or hot. Very often, car owners complain that they shoot when I start the engine.

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The main dosing system includes:

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Idle system:

  • fuel jet D idle
  • channels B and D idle
  • outlets A
  • air jet
  • mixture adjustment screw
  • lever and stop screw on the throttle axis.

Diagnostics

You can diagnose the condition of the engine and the operation of the fuel system using spark plugs. If the center electrode of the spark plug is white, this indicates that the engine is running on a lean mixture. If the carbon deposits are black and dry, then this indicates a rich mixture.

To eliminate this problem, it is recommended to adjust the carburetor. It is better to use a gas analyzer, since settings that rely on human senses do not always give the desired result. In addition, you need to choose a gas station before buying fuel - sometimes black deposits can form due to the quality of gasoline.

Principle of operation

Before starting a cold engine, close the choke . In this case, the throttle valve opens under the action of the starting motor regulator spring. After stopping the engine for a long time, you need to press the drowner button .

  • In this case, the diaphragm presses the lever, the valve opens, and fuel enters the chamber above the diaphragm.
  • When the engine crankshaft rotates, a vacuum is created .
  • Under the influence of vacuum, fuel flows through a spray nozzle .
  • The fuel-air mixture is fed into the mixing chamber through the idle spray holes, and a re-enriched combustible mixture is formed .
  • This creates conditions for reliable engine starting .
  • Immediately after start-up, the combustible mixture becomes leaner , as the automatic valve on the air damper comes into operation.
  • As the engine warms up, the air damper is opened .

Additional reasons

There are a number of other reasons why the exhaust pipe shoots. These include:

  • Popping noises when idling the engine are possible for two reasons - a leak in the intake manifold, as well as a clogged idle system.
  • Poor quality gasoline or gasoline with a low octane number. Try to refuel at reputable gas stations and use fuel recommended by the manufacturer of your car.
  • Mixed spark plug wires . If, when replacing or checking spark plugs, you mixed up the wires connected to them, this will also be a likely cause of popping noises. In this case, the car may not start and “shoot” at the muffler.
  • If your machine has an economizer , check its operation. Often the malfunction of this unit is also the cause of “shots”.
  • Malfunction of the air damper . Check this element and adjust if necessary.
  • One of the reasons when the muffler shoots when releasing gas is that the muffler downpipe ( “pants” ) is poorly screwed to the exhaust manifold. Check the tightness of the connection and tighten it if necessary.
  • Another likely cause of popping noises is high performance fuel injectors (“leaking”). They supply too much fuel, which does not have time to burn completely, which leads to “shots”. There is a simple way to check. It is necessary to try to start the engine at high engine speeds (with the gas pedal depressed) (the so-called purge mode). If popping noises occur at this time, it means that at least one injector is leaking.
  • In injection cars, late ignition and, as a result, popping noises can be caused by “fatigue” of the knock sensor . It can also respond to extraneous noises occurring in the engine. The operation of the sensor must be checked using computer diagnostics.
  • If the muffler shoots when releasing gas , then one of the most common reasons for this is “burning” of the exhaust valves. Popping noises may also appear when descending a mountain in gear. Inspect and clean them.
  • If your car uses a contact ignition system, then you need to check the gap on its contacts . Ignition problems, as described above, may be the reason that not all of the gasoline is burned.
  • Leakage of the gas exhaust system . In this case, as a rule, single pops occur when the gas is released. First of all, check the gaskets at the connections of the pipes (catalyst, resonator, muffler).

Also, if lumbago occurs and traction deteriorates, it is recommended to check the fuel pressure in the system, as well as compression (cylinder tightness for leaks), and inspect the ignition coil.

Condensation in the muffler

The main reason for the formation of condensation in the muffler is the temperature difference between the ambient air and the muffler. Its formation in a car with a working catalyst is a natural phenomenon. It’s worse if it’s not there, but too much can cause corrosion. There is a Read more

As you can see, there are many reasons why a muffler shoots. Therefore, we advise you to start your diagnostics by checking the tightness of the exhaust system. Inspect the bolted connections and gaskets between its individual elements. This will save you time and money. This is especially true if popping noises are heard when releasing the gas or when descending a mountain in gear (when braking the engine).

If the audit does not give positive results, then it is necessary to check the operation of the carburetor, valves and other parts described above. This check is advisable if the muffler shoots when you press the gas .

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