During operation of Vesta, after the first thousand kilometers, owners notice a knocking sound in the front suspension. The most common cause of extraneous noise is a worn stabilizer bar link. Let's look at the instructions for replacing it.
You will need : buy a stabilizer bar strut (part number 8450006750). Raise the car on a lift and remove the wheel.
Analogs
: Renault 8200 669 065, SASIC 4005146, SIDEM 5666 or LEMFORDER 28334 01, 26004 01.
Attention! To avoid injury, the struts should only be replaced when the stabilizer bar is in a relaxed state (both front wheels are suspended or evenly loaded with the weight of the vehicle).
Procedure:
- Use a wire brush to clean the stabilizer strut pin nuts from dirt and rust. If the nut is soured, use VD-40;
- Unscrew the nut of the upper fastening of the stabilizer link (No. 2) using a “16” spanner, holding the ball joint pin from turning with a “5” hex key;
- Unscrew the lower mounting nuts using a similar tool.
- Remove the stabilizer bar by removing the ball joint pin from the front suspension strut (No. 1) and from the stabilizer bar (No. 4);
To check the anti-roll bar link, you need to pull out the top pin of the ball joint, grab it firmly with your hand and wiggle it up and down. The presence of a knock indicates a faulty part. Installation of the stabilizer link is performed in the reverse order. The process is also shown in the video:
It is worth noting that this part is symmetrical and does not have oriented “top” and “bottom” installation marks. The rack mounting nuts are self-locking and cannot be reused, so they must be replaced with new ones during assembly. The tightening torque of the fastening nuts is 44 Nm.
It is believed that the average service life of anti-roll bar struts is about 50 thousand km. How long did they serve on your Vesta? Read other instructions, for example, on self-diagnosis of the suspension or recommendations on eliminating knocks or squeaks in the Vesta suspension.
A knock in the front axle is the first sign of a malfunction in the vehicle's chassis.
To independently replace the stabilizer struts (bones) on a Lada Vesta, you must:
- Place the vehicle within the perimeter of the repair area and block the rear wheels with wheel chocks.
- Break off the bolts, jack up the side, remove the wheel.
- Using a TORX key set to “16”, unscrew the upper fastening of the “bone”.
- By analogy, unscrew the lower fastening.
- Gently tap the tips and remove the “bone”. If the nut is difficult to remove, use WD-40.
- Clean the eyelets from dirt and deposits.
- Insert a new stabilizer link.
Similarly, we change the stand on the right side.
Replacement resource. Consequences of untimely prevention
Lada Vesta stabilizer struts are replaced under warranty after 50,000 km. In practice, the interval is shorter by 5–10 thousand km. If the machine is actively used on rough terrain, the “update” interval is reduced by a third.
The duration of use largely depends on:
- quality of road surface;
- driving style and manners;
- speed and temperature conditions.
When the first knocks appear in the front-wheel drive area, you need to visit a service station and order diagnostics using digital equipment.
Ignoring the vehicle’s “signals” contributes to a decrease in control efficiency. When cornering, the car rolls on its side, making it difficult to control the vehicle at speeds over 90 km/h. At higher speeds, emergency situations cannot be ruled out.
I will list the advantages of lowering the Lada Vesta
- More attractive and modern appearance. The car takes on a more dignified appearance and looks exactly the way it should look. The gap becomes the same as on foreign cars.
- The suspension becomes stiffer, which improves handling. The steering becomes sharper, rolls disappear, and you can take turns at much higher speeds.
- Pecks disappear during braking and stopping.
- At high speeds the car has better handling and stability.
- By reducing the altitude, the resistance is reduced, which ultimately results in fuel savings of approximately 0.5 l./100 km.
- After you lower the Lada Vesta, the expensive, beautiful wheels look simply gorgeous, compared to how these same wheels would have looked before the lowering.
- Many owners who lowered their Vestas note that knocks and squeaks when driving over uneven surfaces have disappeared. This can be explained by the fact that the suspension travel has become less and, in general, its operation has changed. Most of the problems with the chassis that are typical for Vesta have disappeared.
Review of prices of original manufacturers
Catalog item | Price in rubles |
LADA Vesta front left / right (8450006750), stabilizer link length 275 mm | From 700 |
RENAULT Logan suspension mounting bolt (30768) | From 130 |
Nut RENAULT 7703034221 | From 300 |
Cushion bracket 8450006747 | From 350 |
Rod cushion 8450006748 | From 450 |
*prices are current as of 03/06/2019.
Top 4. CTR CLMZ-30
Rating (2021): 4.39
The most popular product is Stabilizer Link, suitable and recommended for cars of more than 10 brands. The brand has enjoyed constant popularity for many years and often takes part in independent tests in various specialized publications.
- Characteristics
Average price: 1080 rub.
- Country: South Korea
- Stand length (mm): 295
- OE code: MAZDA BBM2-34-170A
This stabilizer link has the greatest compatibility. But the point here is not that the design has some kind of original form factor, it’s just that it was tested on all these brands. It is not surprising, since the brand is in demand and is one of the leading players in the market. Its shock absorbers, stabilizers and brake modules are constantly included in reviews of such publications as Behind the Wheel and Auto Review. The brand itself also carefully monitors its reputation, but we note that this does not always work out. There will still be defects, and the number of fakes on the market exceeds all imaginable indicators. True, the company tries in every possible way to protect itself from counterfeiting, but scammers do not skimp on copying security measures.
Advantages and disadvantages
- Popular brand
- Maximum compatibility
- Easy to find in stores
- Very often counterfeited
- Weak copy protection
- There are defects and shortcomings
Analogs of stabilizer struts. Dimensions of components
Catalog number/dimensions | Price in rubles |
Toyota Rav4 (48820-42020), length 285 mm | From 2500 |
Non-original from CTR (CLT50) | From 650 / piece |
Renault, SASIC, SIDEM, LEMFORDER, length 275 mm | From 400 |
Alfa/Fiat/Lancia 46413122 | From 370 |
MONROE: L15600 | From 380 |
Multipla, Lybra | From 350 |
Kia Rio (548132K100) | From 370 |
Stabilizer bracket, bracket (548141G000) | From 250 |
*prices are current as of 03/06/2019.
Preparation of the workplace
- TORX wrench, socket set;
- rags;
- additional lighting;
- new “bones”;
- liquid for removing rust and deposits;
- related consumables that need to be replaced.
Sequencing:
- We install the machine on a flat platform. We fix the rear row of wheels with wheel chocks.
- Unscrew the bolts, jack up the left side, and remove the wheel.
- Raise the car with a jack until the pressure on the bone decreases and it becomes easier to rotate.
- Using a key set to “16”, unscrew the upper and lower fastenings. Gently tap with a hammer and remove the tips from the seat. We use WD-40 as needed.
- We clean the eyes, remove dirt, deposits, and rust.
- We press in the ends of the new stabilizer link.
- Tighten the nuts with a torque wrench to a force of 5 Nm.
By analogy, we replace the racks on the right side.
Lada Vesta suspension diagnostics
Before starting repairs, be sure to carry out diagnostics. This is necessary to assess the condition of the machine, identify breakdowns, and correctly calculate spare parts and consumables.
The process is not at all complicated, you can do it on your own. If you encounter any difficulties with installation, please read the instructions and watch video tutorials on the Internet.
- We drive the car into the inspection hole, fix the rear row of wheels with boots to avoid any arbitrary rollback;
- Jack up the side and remove the wheel;
- From under the bottom we press on the stabilizer bar, check for play, deformation, cracks;
- Additionally, we inspect the condition of adjacent parts, levers, and mechanisms.
To check the tightness of the fit, we use a metal pry bar. We summarize, analyze the received data, and calculate the number of necessary spare parts.
Finally, we check the brake pads, disc, and cylinder. If the actual thickness of the pads is less than 17.0 mm, they must be replaced with new ones. Subsequent operation of the vehicle is unsafe.
Recommendations for selection
When purchasing consumables, prefer original ones; do not purchase analogues or substitutes, even if they are compatible in size.
Note to the driver. Stabilizer struts from Toyota Rav 4 are compatible with Lada Vesta; many car enthusiasts install them instead of standard ones. However, they are 10 mm longer than the originals. When a wheel falls into a hole at speed, the suspension arm hits the lower mount of the bone. An additional blow occurs.
Before purchasing, consult with service station specialists regarding the compatibility of the part with the make (model) of your car. If you are not sure that you can install spare parts efficiently, use the paid services of workshops.
stabilizer CLT - 50 1PCS
Conclusion
The process of replacing a stabilizer link is within the power of every car enthusiast. You need to be extremely careful not to disrupt the installation technology. Incorrect installation contributes to premature wear of parts and failure of mechanisms.
Top 3. GMB 1011-0081
Rating (2021): 4.51
Best price The cheapest stabilizer in our rating. The cost of the rack is almost two times lower than that of its closest competitor.
- Characteristics
Average price: 330 rub.
- Country: Japan (manufactured in South Korea)
- Stand length (mm): 265
- OE code: Hyundai/Kia 0K2N1 34 150A
Owners of Korean cars know this Japanese brand well. It produces shock absorbers, stabilizers and springs for popular car brands, but thanks to the standard form factor, their products can also be installed on Vesta. The length of the stand is 265 millimeters. This is the smallest size for Lada. The main advantage here is the best price. You are unlikely to be able to find a product cheaper. Note that even the original AvtoVAZ struts are more expensive, which is a little strange. True, there are often defects here, so before purchasing, carefully examine the product for damage. The weakest point is the rubber boot, which can be torn.
Advantages and disadvantages
- Best price tag
- Availability in almost all stores
- Often there is a marriage
- Virtually unprotected from counterfeiting
Reviews
№ | Positive |
1. | Kirill , 33 years old (drive2.ru) Sverdlovsk: the car is three years old, there are no capital investments, except for the costs of scheduled technical inspections. The front end does not make noise, does not knock, I drive carefully, at medium speed. The car “sleeps” in the garage, and I systematically carry out diagnostics. |
2. | Anatolyevich , 43 years old (prom.ua), Krasnodar: I have no complaints about the suspension of the Lada Vesta, I use the car actively, every day. In two years, I checked the camber-toe angle once. |
3. | Gennady , 36 years old (autotoday.com), Omsk: I didn’t expect such good quality from a domestic manufacturer. Lada Vesta was a great success, I like it, good build. I have no complaints, I’ve been riding for a year and a half with pleasure. |
4. | Kirill Ivanovich , 46 years old (rozetka.ua), Rostov-on-Don: the car is three years old, like new condition. I look after the equipment, drive carefully, and regularly visit service stations for diagnostics. |
5. | Dmitry Vyacheslavovich , 42 years old, Kursk (avtoflit.com): my positive review of the Lada Vesta car. There is something to compare with, the previous model was Lada Granta, the quality is “weaker”. Well built, it turned out to be a solid car. Finally, a domestic manufacturer has pleased car enthusiasts. |
6. | Valentin , 34 years old, Voronezh (autotoday.com): I buy only original consumables; I don’t trust analogues, even high-quality ones. The car is in its fourth year, there are no comments on the suspension or chassis. I consider this a good indicator that I am on the right path. |
7. | Fedorovich , 45 years old, Ufa (drive2.ru): I saved on consumables once, but later regretted it. It was hardly 40,000 km, so I replaced it with original ones. The racks are still in service, no complaints. |
8. | Mikhalych , 39 years old, Bashkortostan (drive2.ru): during the three years of active operation of the car there were no critical breakdowns, all mechanisms operate as normal. There are no complaints about the suspension, I hope it will last for more than a dozen kilometers. |
Negative | |
9. | Vasilyevich , 48 years old (prom.ua), Saratov: I’m not satisfied with the quality of manufacturing of the factory seeds; they served for 45,000 km, after which they replaced them with foreign analogues. The last ones were already 60,000 and without a hint of repair. |
10. | Davidich , 45 years old, Moscow (avtoflit.com): after the second winter, the suspension made itself felt. I drove onto the overpass, checked the hinges and racks - they needed to be replaced with new ones, there was some play. |
11. | Ivanych , 33 years old, Voronezh (drive2.ru): the car is in its third year, the front creaked, most likely the bones were worn out. For such a short mileage the resource is small. Comrades advised to buy foreign analogues, the price is 20 - 30% cheaper than the originals. I'll try it and post the results. |
12. | Vladimir , 36 years old, Pskov (autotoday.com): after buying a car off the showroom floor, at the second maintenance, I replaced a number of spare parts with foreign analogues. Their quality is an order of magnitude higher than domestic ones, and their service life is longer. Stabilizer struts from Renault Logan and Kia are suitable for Lada Vesta. |
Tips for caring for Lada Vesta suspension
- We adhere to the manufacturer’s recommendations regarding the interval of scheduled technical inspection - every 15,000 km;
- The average service life of the suspension is 60 – 65 thousand km. Mandatory preventive maintenance after 15,000 km;
- Purchase components from official points, representative offices, dealers;
- Order paid car repair services only from those service stations that provide a quality guarantee for the work performed;
- Always check the compatibility of parts according to the catalog numbers specified in the operating instructions;
- After carrying out repair work at the service center, check that the technicians have entered maintenance data into the service book.
[pp_youtube src=»https://www.youtube.com/embed/cRt5mE6qxNI?feature=oembed» ] Driver, remember that a moderate driving style and original parts increase the service life of Lada Vesta parts by 7 - 10%.
Which stabilizer struts are best to install? Obviously, new ones and with factory catalog numbers. Installing parts from other models is a temporary solution to the problem, not always effective or correct.
Video - Replacing the stabilizer link
Three years is a short time for a new car. But today the car is widely known and actively discussed. This is not about its advantages and merits, on the contrary. Drivers complain about problems that arise literally from the first kilometers of operation.
The main problem, so to speak, the stumbling block, was the suspension of the Lada Vesta. Although the management of the automobile plant assured that it was adapted taking into account Russian roads. However, a miracle did not happen and the stabilizer struts on Vesta became consumables, which have to be changed after a run of 5 thousand km.
Today we will look at the principle of operation of racks and find out the role of diagnostics. We will reveal the algorithm of actions when replacing them with our own hands and separately highlight the issue of selecting transverse stability struts. Let's find out which analogues can be used in the repair process.
Principle of operation
The stabilizer is a metal pipe that connects to the front wheels of the vehicle. Fastening is carried out using cylindrical rubber. This is the stabilizer bushing. Its task is to ensure rotation of the stabilizing unit relative to the machine.
The suspension is a familiar analogue of the French Renault car. It works great on the roads of the post-Soviet space. Therefore, no technical changes have occurred in the design of the suspension system.
The operating principle of the Lada Vesta anti-roll bar struts is similar to its French counterpart.
Diagnostics
The first signal of failure of the element in question can be heard after 5 thousand kilometers. We are talking about a characteristic knocking sound when the wheel hits a small obstacle or falls into a hole. The knocking sound may appear, suddenly disappear and resume again.
The quality of our roads cannot be called ideal, so the anthers are the first to suffer and tear. As a result, dirt and dust seeps inside. They are the cause of premature failure of the elements of the stabilizing system. Further, play forms in the ball joint: this is the cause of the noise.
Having discovered an emerging problem and determined the condition of the Lada Vesta stabilizer struts, a set of diagnostic measures will be required.
Today, service centers are armed with enough modern instruments and devices that can determine the technical condition of a vehicle.
After the verdict is made, you can make a decision:
- What components to install: original or analogue.
- Where to carry out the replacement: in a car service or in your garage, on your own.
What you need to know about the rear suspension elements of the Lada Vesta
In the rear part, the suspension function is performed by a torsion beam, shock absorbers, springs, silent blocks pressed into the beam.
As the machine is used, parts wear out, backlash is formed, and free play increases. To eliminate the defect, it is necessary to replace the rear suspension elements.
- After removing the wheel, unscrew the upper and lower fastenings of the shock absorber strut assembly with the spring. Next, we unscrew the beam fastening, press out the silent blocks, inspect the mounting socket, and press in new bushings.
- Sometimes sagging rear springs make a metallic knock. Inexperienced motorists mistake this for a knocking sound from the stabilizer bar. To replace the spring, first remove the rear shock absorber and spring assembly.
- Using a crab-shaped puller, we compress several turns of the spring and disassemble the module. We install a new spring and assemble the structure.
- At the same time, we carry out troubleshooting of the brake circuit, pads, disc, and working cylinder. If the actual thickness of the pads is less than 19.0 mm, replace them with new ones. Subsequent operation of the machine is unsafe.
Replacing stabilizer struts on a Lada Vesta with your own hands
If you decide to replace the Lada Vesta stabilizer struts yourself, you need to understand what dimensions the analogs and the original have. Next, prepare the tool and get to work.
We'll talk about analogues and original products (their sizes) a little later, but now let's look at the sequence of actions. Let's find out what tools are needed during the dismantling and installation process, which, by the way, does not take more than 60 minutes.
- New set of stabilizer links.
- Jacks 2 pcs.
- Shoes for wheels or a couple of bricks.
- We stock up on WD-40.
- You will need a wheel wrench.
- Key No. 16: socket.
- Key No. 14 for a new rack.
- Key number 15 for a new rack.
- Torx T-30 for a standard rack.
Patron shock absorber struts: how to distinguish
The main signs of fake KAYABA shock absorbers, or how to distinguish the original from the fake?!
Good day to all! The stand began to leak, I decided to look for which option was better to take, after rummaging around in the drive I realized that there are a lot of KAYABA crafts, there are actually a lot of posts that didn’t even leave 10,000. I found this article which more or less explains how to distinguish (I hope you will be interested).
The main signs of fake KAYABA shock absorbers or how to distinguish the original from the fake?!
How not to get hooked by unscrupulous sellers, or as they say: the disappointment of purchasing a low-quality product lasts longer than the joy of a low price.
Everyone has known for a long time that lately there are a lot of fakes on the market, and absolutely everything is faked - well-known or little-known brands - it doesn’t matter. counterfeit goods at the market and in stores have become more frequent.
that is, the “left” KAYABA
, which is pouring out from the port cities of Ukraine.
The fault is with unscrupulous sellers who are ready to do anything for the sake of excess profits! Not the last factor is the lack of information in the media, and also, I would even say, the illiteracy of some buyers who especially distinguished themselves in the pursuit of the lowest price...
! (I did not want to offend by word or deed those few honest sellers, of whom there are still quite a few left). Let's take a closer look at what we purchased...
How to make sure that the KAYABA shock absorber is not fake?
There are several rules that must be followed:
Buy spare parts from regular, proven and reliable suppliers (they value you and value their reputation).2.
There are also many visually similar logos, such as KY8, KYD, KVB, etc. This is also a method of deception - be careful.
Visual signs of a fake KAYABA:
The original KAYABA has an even weld seam, all additional parts on the rack are welded smoothly and in one plane, in their places, seals and good quality materials are used, the shock absorber itself is packed in a box made of thick corrugated cardboard in scarlet or blue color, depending on its characteristics.
Dismantling sequence
The first step is to remove the wheel: unscrew the mounting bolts. If the nut does not budge (soured), VD-40 is used.
Rust is cleaned off and dirt is removed from the fingers of the stabilizing mechanism. The work is carried out using a metal brush.
The upper fastening nut is dismantled. You will need a ring wrench No. 16. To secure the hinge pin from turning, use a wrench No. 5.
Work with the lower fastening is similar in the sequence of removing the upper arm.
Installation of stabilizer struts
Installation of the new kit is carried out in the reverse order.
When tightening, you do not need to exert high physical effort. 44 Nm is enough. If you are installing the original, you need to know the product catalog number: 8450006748.
Sometimes you can only get by by replacing the stabilizer bushings. Stub bushings are suitable in dimensions d/h/w: 40/45/38 mm. hole diameter 22 mm.
Of particular interest are products made from polyurethane in the following dimensions: L/W/H: 39/42/43.5 mm. similar dimensions to Chevrolet Niva.
Also suitable are consumables, which according to the catalog go under No. 2123-2906046. If we talk about KIA, this is the catalog number KSBSJULF-21.5 mm (54813-2K 100). This option uses brackets 54814-G000.
Please note that the installation of other spare parts may change the driving performance of the vehicle. This will affect the stiffness when driving straight and cornering.
For complete clarity, we present the average prices of assembly bushings:
- The stub will cost 450-700 rubles.
- Niva costs from 150 to 300 rubles per pair.
- KIA option 150-600 rubles per unit (piece).
Please note that the part in question is symmetrical. Therefore the installation does not matter. There are no "up" or "down" designations on the stabilizer bushings. This greatly simplifies installation and reduces work time.
In addition, the fastening nuts are disposable. When assembling a new kit, you need to use new fasteners.
Analogs of stabilizer struts Lada Vesta
Now let's look at the issue that worries many Vesta owners. These are original kits and products from related companies. What analogues are suitable and what are their sizes.
The length of the factory stand is 275 mm. Among the analogues we highlight:
- Racks Toyota Rav 4. Length 285 mm. Article 48820-42020.
- Russian set, costing 520 rubles.
- Products of the CTR company. Article CLT Unit price 600 rub. therefore, the cost of the set is 1200 rubles.
- Instead of the “native” stabilizer bar of the Lada Vesta, you can install an ALFA/FIAT/Lancia analogue
- Renault
- SASIC
- SIDEM
- Lemforder
Of course, other kits are also suitable. But these are the most common. Plus, they are affordable.
Which stabilizer struts are best to buy on Vesta
When choosing a replacement for the original, you must consider the length of the stand. It is measured between the centers of the ball pins and for a standard (not lowered or lifted) suspension it is 275 mm. The length must be strictly observed, since if the distance between the centers of the fingers does not match, the stabilizer will not work correctly. For example, by installing a strut just 10 mm longer, we will regularly hear the sound of the strut hitting the lever when driving over bumps. In addition, it will fail within a maximum of 15-20 thousand km.
Old original stabilizer link and new one from RAV4, difference 10 mm
If the suspension parameters have been changed, the ground clearance has been lowered or increased, the strut should be selected taking into account the changed ground clearance. It is highly not recommended to buy racks from little-known manufacturers, and judging by the reviews, users are not too fond of Belmag racks. Also, for the reasons mentioned above, you should not install racks from Toyota RAV4 with a length of 285 mm, neither the original Toyota ones ( 48820-42020 ), nor their analogues.
The article number of the original VAZ stub rack is 8450006750 , the price is about $10-11. However, their quality is questioned by many owners. Based on public feedback, racks from the following manufacturers are most often purchased:
- STR CLMZ 19 , tolerable quality, price within the original;
- full analogue of Renault 8200 669 065 ;
- SASIC 4005146 ;
- LEMFORDER 28334 01 ;
- SIDEM , article 19061 , price about $15;
- Trek , part number SL70-198 , $10 each;
- FEBI 12768;
- MONROE L15600.
It is very important to remember that it is highly recommended to replace the racks in pairs, while the nuts also necessarily require replacement, since they are not intended for reuse.