The power unit (motor with gearbox) is suspended on supports, which are also called engine mounts. Strong vibrations transmitted from the engine to the body indicate wear on these rubber parts. To prevent this negative effect from occurring, it is recommended to replace the engine mounts as they wear out.
This manual covers the replacement of VAZ 21129, VAZ 21179 and HR16 engine mounts installed on the Lada Vesta and XRAY models.
Replacing engine mounts for VAZ 21129 and HR16 (Lada Vesta and XRAY)
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The power unit (motor with gearbox) is suspended on supports, which are also called engine mounts. Strong vibrations transmitted from the engine to the body indicate wear on these rubber parts. To prevent this negative effect from occurring, it is recommended to replace the engine mounts as they wear out.
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This manual covers the replacement of VAZ 21129 and HR16 engine mounts installed on the Lada Vesta and XRAY models.
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Rear cushion
This support is located at the bottom of the rear side of the motor. It is designed to reduce engine vibrations, as well as suppress knocking and dampen vibrations.
To dismantle it, you will first have to remove the protection of the power unit. When this is done, you need to unscrew the nut with an 18mm wrench while holding the bolt so that it does not turn.
Next, using the same 17mm wrench, unscrew the bolt marked in Figure No. 1, and then loosen the bolt marked No. 2. All that remains is to remove the bolt and remove the support.
When tightening, the prescribed torque is from 90 Nm to 120 Nm.
As you can see, replacing the Lada Vesta and X-Ray engine mounts yourself is quite possible and does not require a large number of tools.
The pillow, also known as the Lada Vesta engine support, is a kind of stabilizer against detonation. Vesta car parts come in three types: left, right, rear additional - price from 1,400 rubles. The parts have a separate article number. Malfunctions: the main malfunction is a knocking sound from the support, usually knocking on the left. The left pillow is reinforced. It is important to adjust the engine mount correctly. During engine operation, useful energy is generated, which is used to set the Lada Vesta car in motion. The movement of the “insides” of the motor causes it to begin to create vibration. To “dampen” engine vibration, they place them on supports, which perform several more functions:
- increase sound insulation of the engine compartment;
- protect other parts and assemblies from damage;
- stabilize the position of the motor as much as possible (if the amplitude of movement of the motor constantly increases, this will lead to wear of the connections);
- protect the engine from the negative influence of the external environment (when the car passes obstacles, the suspension does not completely dampen rolling, and the struts act as additional shock absorbers).
How to check engine mounts
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You can visually assess the condition of the pillows. If the rubber elements are torn, cracked or deformed, then it’s time to replace the supports. Fatigue cracks in metal elements are also a sign of a faulty engine mount.
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Signs of tired engine mounts:
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- Vibrations appeared during engine operation;
- Knocks appeared when suddenly starting from a stop or when braking the engine;
- There was a dull hum in the cabin.
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Replacing the left engine mount
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The left support is attached to the side member with four bolts. The support is attached to the gearbox bracket with two bolts. The bracket itself is secured to the gearbox housing with three bolts. Access to the left airbag is blocked by the battery shelf, engine crankcase protection and air filter bracket; these parts will need to be removed.
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Place a jack under the gearbox and lift it slightly, unloading the left support. Then:
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- Unscrew the four bolts securing the support to the body using a 16mm wrench (No. 2);
- Unscrew the two bolts securing the support to the gearbox bracket (No. 1), 18mm wrench.
- Remove the left engine mount.
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Replacement of the left engine mount VAZ 21129
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Installation of the new support is carried out in the reverse order. We tighten the bolts (No. 1) from 90-120 Nm, and the bolts (No. 2) - 53-71 Nm.
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Problem
As sad as it is to realize, West owners are not spared this problem either. Many owners notice knocking noises under the hood of the Lada Vesta, and they come from the right side.
As a rule, you don’t have to search for long, since the situation is well known. It appears on sedans that were equipped with engine mounts from the VAZ 21129. As a result, a whole cacophony of sounds began to be heard from the engine compartment, including knocks, clicks, squeaks, etc. Moreover, these sounds are so loud that they can be heard even in the cabin.
The knock from the support is quite loud
And the best confirmation of this is numerous videos in which owners of the domestic model demonstrate trouble.
And in this video you can hear knocks directly inside the car.
In addition, some owners began to “dig deeper” and found out that a similar situation occurs not only on Vesta, but also on other models of the Renault-Nissan Alliance. In particular, on the Nissan Qashqai. This is also confirmed in the video.
As for the Lada X-Ray, the hatchback has not noticed such a problem, even though its engines are the same as those on the sedan. The whole point is that X-Ray is equipped with different supports for the power unit.
Replacing the right engine mount
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The right cushion is attached to the side member with two bolts, and three bolts to the engine. Remove the engine splash guard and raise the right side of the engine using a jack. Then:
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- Unscrew the two bolts (No. 2) securing the support to the body, the key is “16”;
- Unscrew the two bolts (No. 1) securing the support to the engine bracket, TORX E12 wrench;
- Remove the right engine mount.
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Replacement of the right engine mount VAZ 21129
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Installation in reverse order, tighten the bolts to 53-71 Nm. The right engine mount HR16 has a different design:
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Replacing the right engine mount Renault HR16
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Manufacturers and prices of analogues
The cushions for Lada Vesta engines are considered by owners to be not particularly reliable and are even being modified to increase the effect of vibration absorption.
The TuningProsto studio is developing improved spare parts from AvtoVAZ, including a recent development - an engine mount. Their price will be on average 3,000 rubles, orders are still being accepted. The tests were successful, and on a car dealer's car intended for a test drive - the car is used very often.
Otherwise, there are no special attempts to create analogues, because the “craftsmen” have already drawn the attention of Vest owners to two modification options:
- Came from Renault owners. It is necessary to create for each problematic pillow a metal plate 80 mm long, 38 mm wide and two grooves on the sides measuring 23 mm wide and 38 mm deep. The funny thing is that the X-Ray, which is in many ways similar to the Vesta, has the same engine (21129), but there are no problems with the upper right support - it’s just different.
- If the part itself is still intact, it can be lubricated with silicone grease where the rubber hits the metal body.
Engine Lada Vesta
Products from the Dustershop77 range on the topic of the article:
Name | Manufacturer | Price | Availability | Add to cart |
DC1822-8200291355 | Crankcase gas recirculation valve Renault 8200291355 | Original | 6900 / 5500 rub. Discount: 4900 rub. | 2 |
DC1644-140328698R | Intake manifold gasket H4M original 140328698R | Original | 700 / 600 rub. Discount: 400 rub. | 4 |
DC380-ASAM-30376 | Lower radiator support cushion 7700430992 / 215081131R ASAM-SA 30376 analogue | Analogue | 150 / 100 rub. Discount: 80 rub. | 4 |
DC919-226A41772R | Oxygen sensor lambda probe upper Duster, Vesta and other engines. H4M 1.6 226A41772R / 226901841R / 226906393R | Original | 4500 / 4200 rub. Discount: 3900 rub. | 1 |
DC1211-8200132254 | Fuel injector for K4M engine original 8200132254 | Original | 2900 / 2200 rub. Discount: 1900 rub. | 4 |
DC1321-161757436R | Throttle valve gasket H4M/F4R original 161757436R | Original | 1000 / 900 rub. Discount: 700 rub. | 2 |
DC1738 | Fuel pump fuel filter mesh Renault Duster, Captur, Terrano, Vesta, etc. 2.0 / 1.6 (Masuma) | Analogue | 800 / 500 rub. Discount: 350 rub. | 1 |
DC619-8200048024 | Expansion tank cover original Renault 8200048024 | Original | 700 / 500 rub. Discount: 350 rub. | 2 |
DC1398-30777 | Gasket for fuel pump ring ASAM 30777 | ASAM | 300 / 250 rub. Discount: 200 rub. | 2 |
DC1746 | Membrane of the crankcase gas recirculation valve Renault Duster, Captur, Terrano, etc. (KVKG membrane F4R 2.0) | Analogue | 2200 / 1900 rub. Discount: 1600 rub. | 1 |
DC981-FCR210114 | Electric fuel pump FRANCECAR FCR210114 | Analogue | 1500 / 1200 rub. Discount: 1100 rub. | 1 |
DC1322-224332428R | Ignition coil 1.6 H4m original 224332428R | Original | 3500 / 3000 rub. Discount: 2600 rub. | 9 |
DC1682-6001549070 | Fuel vapor absorber original 6001549070 | Original | 4000 / 3200 rub. Discount: 2800 rub. | 1 |
DC1643-140323253R | Intake manifold gasket H4M original 140323253R | Original | 2000 / 1800 rub. Discount: 1600 rub. | 2 |
LRT-002/6001548140 | Washer reservoir is not original, ANALOGUE 6001548140 | LOGEM | 1000 / 900 rub. Discount: 500 rub. | 1 |
DC382-ASAM-30494 | Expansion tank ASAM-SA 30494 (7701470460) | Analogue | 1000 / 700 rub. Discount: 600 rub. | 1 |
DC918-226A44171R | Oxygen sensor lower lambda probe H4M 1.6 Lambda probe Renault 226A44171R | Original | 32000 / 6500 rub. Discount: 5300 rub. | 1 |
DC955-150100565R | Oil pump for F4R original 150100565R | Original | 7500 / 6900 rub. Discount: 6600 rub. | 1 |
DC1314-135101KT0A | Front crankshaft oil seal H4M original 135101KT0A | Original | 900 / 700 rub. Discount: 550 rub. | 2 |
DC1320-161191KA1B | Throttle valve H4M original 161191KA1B | Original | 35000 / 29900 rub. Discount: 28300 rub. | 1 |
DC1664-21179113201000 | Fuel injector VAZ 1.8l 21179 original 21179113201000 | Original | 1800 / 1500 rub. Discount: 1300 rub. | 4 |
DC2457-8200291355 | Crankcase gas recirculation valve - analogue 8200291355 | Analogue | 4000 / 2400 rub. Discount: 1900 rub. | >10 |
6001548140 | Washer reservoir Renault 6001548140 original | Original | 2000 / 1700 rub. Discount: 1500 rub. | 1 |
DC957-8200665520 | Starter K4M 1.6 original 8200665520 | Original | 13000 / 11500 rub. Discount: 10500 rub. | 1 |
DC1302-166008992R | Fuel injector for H4M engine original 166008992R | Original | 3500 / 2600 rub. Discount: 2400 rub. | 4 |
DC1315-122791HC0A | Rear crankshaft oil seal H4M original 122791HC0A | Original | 2000 / 1700 rub. Discount: 1400 rub. | 1 |
DC1889 | Upper radiator support cushion 215060007R analog | Analogue | 340 / 250 rub. Discount: 200 rub. | 1 |
DC1663-21120370501015 | Ignition coil VAZ 1.6/1.8 21129/21179 original 21120370501015 | Original | 1900 / 1200 rub. Discount: 900 rub. | 4 |
DC1836 | Lower thin injector sealing ring Vesta, Largus, X-ray, Granta, Kalina 21127-1139045R (1 pc.) | Original | 25 / 15 rub. Discount: 10 rub. | 4 |
DC1837 | Valve cover bushing Vesta, Granta, 2108 (1 piece) | Original | 25 / 15 rub. Discount: 10 rub. | 4 |
DC1838 | Upper thick injector sealing ring Vesta, Largus, X-ray, Granta, Kalina (1 pc.) | Original | 25 / 15 rub. Discount: 10 rub. | 4 |
DC1839 | Rings for injectors Vesta, Largus, X-ray, Granta, Kalina (set of 8 pcs.) Rosteco | Analogue | 340 / 250 rub. Discount: 200 rub. | 1 |
DC1878-21080130704204 | Gasket for pump Largus, Vesta, X-Ray, VAZ-2108-2112 21080130704204 | Original | 50 / 30 rub. Discount: 20 rub. | 1 |
DC1740 | Fuel filter for submersible fuel pump Renault Duster, Captur, Terrano, Vesta, etc. 2.0 / 1.6 (LYNX) | Analogue | 2100 / 1800 rub. Discount: 1500 rub. | 0 |
DC1766 | Throttle valve gasket repair kit K4M/F4R (large+small) Balakovo PTP64 | Analogue | 300 / 200 rub. Discount: 150 rub. | 0 |
DC1200-BK64105/30598 | Fuel pump ring with gasket | Analogue | 1000 / 700 rub. Discount: 500 rub. | 0 |
DC522-233009370R | Starter for F4R engine original art. 233009370R | Original | 14000 / 10600 rub. Discount: 9900 rub. | 0 |
DC1002-B208A03276 | Fuel injector for K4M DEKO engine B208A03276 (analogue 8200132254) | Analogue | 2000 / 1500 rub. Discount: 1300 rub. | 0 |