Welding the underbody of a car: tips and equipment review

The underbody of the car is exposed to water, dirt and road chemicals more quickly than the rest of the body. And if you drive over a high curb or asphalt ridge, the deformations accelerate the deterioration of the metal even more. By the way, from personal sad experience, I note that it is better to drive over such obstacles with your wheel, and not take them between the wheels, if the ground clearance is less than 160 mm. So, I’ll tell you how to repair the underbody of a car by welding, which devices I consider the best for this, and I’ll share the specific nuances of the welding process.

Semi-automatic welding of car underbody

I consider this method to be the best because the work is easier and completed faster. For welding the bottom of a car with a semi-automatic machine, I recommend the following models:.

  • PTK MASTER MIG 180 F15 is a simple and reliable budget semi-automatic machine for the garage. If you want to cook the car yourself, this is a great choice.
  • Svarog REAL MIG 200 (N24002N) is also a simple device, but at 200 A (can be useful for welding thicker metal, such as gates, wicket hinges).
  • AuroraPRO OVERMAN 200 is another budget device for repairing the bottom by welding, but it is capable of working when the incoming voltage drops up to 140 V. This is relevant if your garage has such problems with electricity.
  • Fubag INMIG 200 SYN Plus is a semi-professional machine, which should be considered by car service technicians and craftsmen. Fine settings will ensure comfort when working with bottom metal.
  • KEMPPI MinarcMIG EVO 170 is a reliable and durable semi-automatic machine with a graphic display. With a current of 100 A, you can cook continuously, which is important for long-term work in a car service station.
    • I recommend that the welding wire for repairing the underbody of a car be copper-plated. Then the seam will better resist the constant vibrations present on the body. Buy, for example, ESAB OK Autrod 12.51 wire with a diameter of 0.8 mm.

Types of service

Overcooking the bottom of a VAZ-2112 car can be:

  1. Using semi-automatic welding equipment:
  2. Using gas welding.

Depending on the location of the repair, the service is:

  • In the garage of a private master.
  • On the territory of the car service center.
  • At the location of the client's car.

Depending on the time that the client allocates for work, overcooking occurs:

According to the performer, overcooking is classified into:

Manual arc welding of car underbody

Welding the underbody of a car with an electrode and an inverter is slower than with a semi-automatic machine, and the welder himself must already have certain skills to control the arc (it’s easier for beginners to work with a semi-automatic machine). I don’t recommend this method for professional work due to the low speed, but for welding the underbody of a car with your own hands it is quite suitable. The price of RDS inverters is much more affordable than semi-automatic ones. If you are thinking about buying a welding machine, I advise you to take a look at:

  • TERMIT VDI-200 is a small and light device weighing 3.5 kg. It is convenient to walk around the car with it. It's cheap, but reliable. This way, repairing the bottom of a VAZ by welding will be the most economical.
  • Resanta SAI 220 is a budget inverter with simple settings. Resistant to network fluctuations.
  • Svarog REAL ARC 200 (Z238N) is a device with improved housing protection for garage conditions. It features stable arc burning and the presence of an Antistick function.
  • Resanta SAI 250PN - RDS inverter cooks at an input voltage of 140 V.
  • TOP Torus-210 Comfort is a Russian-made device with three auxiliary functions: Arc Force, Antistick, Hot Start.
  • I advise you to buy ESAB OK 46.00 electrodes with a diameter of 2-3 mm. They are suitable for welding in all spatial positions and are unpretentious to the cleanliness of the metal surface. Other welding machines suitable for welding the bottom can be found in the adjacent article about choosing equipment for a garage. If you are seriously thinking about opening a service station, also consider models suitable for welding alloy wheels.

    Where to order the service?

    You can order a service for digesting the bottom of a VAZ-2112 car at a car service center. The service station employs qualified craftsmen who will perform the work efficiently and provide a guarantee. In order to save money, you can contact a private master working in a garage. If you have the skills, it is better to do the overcooking yourself. This is the most budget option.

    Dear, please tell me how much it will cost to rebuild the bottom of a VAZ 2110. Well, the thresholds, of course. The bottom of a VAZ 2110.

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    41 comments on “The bottom of a VAZ 2110. How much will it cost to weld the bottom onto a VAZ 2110”

    It depends where you cook. 20-25000. No spare parts.

    Threshold 7-10 with painting one! Bottom one pocket 3-5 thousand somewhere! Well, materials with paint no more than 3 thousand, well, the thresholds themselves assembled on both sides 4 thousand iron! Not counting the arches of the wings, rear pockets! That will be about 30! From a private owner!

    I cooked 18 for a friend without iron

    I can help, 16,000 with work and materials

    Good afternoon. You need to digest the bottom at ten. Please leave your contacts.

    where do you live novel I also need to digest the car

    Dima, this is the first time I’ve seen an adequate comment about repairing the underbody of a car, otherwise they always write about some 3-5t.r. wow, there are already comments about 16 above

    Vyacheslav, is that all?

    Dima, above, comment on what it will take to make the bottom with materials in 16 years. And the bottom, this means there are no thresholds at all, the doors, fenders need to be removed, etc.

    where do people get such prices, horror, a new threshold costs 350, a threshold corner 340, an amplifier 250, jacks 150, threshold connectors 100, total 2900, well, the maximum will be 3500 from different stores, and also pockets 800 each, arches 300, and overcooking it will be 4000+ for this money they will pay and do everything, for 16 oblique they will also putty and paint the rear fenders, we have wild competition for this. He himself is often forced into repairs because of his activities.

    Vyacheslav, ahh well, I also don’t understand the disadvantage of working))) and then people say yes, they’ll do it for me for 16 and leave and then come to redo it, a bodyworker who respects his work and is responsible for quality will not humiliate himself in price!

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    Preparation of the bottom before welding

    Now let’s talk directly about the process of repairing the bottom by welding. First, the surface needs to be prepared. Ideally, it is better to sandblast the bottom to see the full picture of the condition of the metal and make it easier to initiate an arc. If you don't have a sandblaster, brush the metal to remove any rust.

    Tap the surface with a hammer, looking for ringing, resonant places - the iron is thinnest there.

    Open holes should be cut out with a grinder to solid metal, otherwise the material will continue to rot even inside the structure. Use tin snips in hard-to-reach places. Prepare cut segments that match the shape of the areas to be closed (patches). Metal thickness is acceptable 1-2 mm.

    Body work

    Price list for body and paint work at the Autoliga shopping center

    Element coloring Automobile Automobile Automobile Automobile
    middle class (METALIC) middle class (ACRYLIC) executive class (METALIC) executive class (MOTHER OF PEARL)
    Front bumper 5000r 4500rub 6000rub 6500rub
    Rear bumper 5000r 4500rub 6000rub 6500rub
    Front wing 5000r 4500rub 6000rub 6500rub
    Rear wing (sedan) 5500rub 5000r 6000rub 6500rub
    Rear wing (coupe) 6000rub 5500rub 7000rub 7700rub
    Front door 5000r 4500rub 6000rub 6500rub
    Front door (coupe) 6000rub 5500rub 6500rub 7000rub
    Rear door (sedan) 5000r 4500rub 6000rub 6500rub
    Threshold 3500rub 3200rub 4500rub 5500rub
    Rear panel 3500rub 3200rub 4500rub 5500rub
    Radiator frame 4000rub 3500rub 5000r 5500rub
    Hood (sedan) 7000rub 6500rub 8000rub 9000rub
    Hood (coupe) 7000rub 6500rub 8000rub 9000rub
    Roof (sedan) 10000r 9000rub 10000r 11000rub
    Roof (coupe) 7000rub 6500rub 9000rub 10000
    Removal and installation of mounted body parts for middle class cars
    Front bumper 600rub 1000r
    Rear bumper 600rub 1000r
    Front wing 900rub 900rub
    Front door 1000r 2500rub
    Front door (coupe) 1200rub 2600rub
    Rear door (sedan) 800rub 2100rub
    Hood (sedan) 600rub 900rub
    Hood (coupe) 600rub 900rub
    Repair of deformed elements
    Repair No. 1 - correction of damage in easily accessible places (up to 20% of the surface).
    Repair No. 2 - correction of damage with welding or repair No. 1 on a surface deformed up to 50%.
    Repair No. 3 - correction of damage with opening and welding, partial restoration of the part up to 30% of the surface.
    Repair No. 4 - elimination of damage by partial restoration of the part on the surface over 30%.
    Element Repair No. 1 Repair No. 2 Repair No. 3 Repair No. 4
    Front wing 600rub 900rub 2500rub from 3000r
    Rear wing (sedan) 600rub 1200rub 2500rub from 3000r
    Rear wing (coupe) 600rub 1500rub 3000rub from 4000r
    Front door 600rub 1400rub 2500rub from 3000r
    Front door (coupe) 800rub 1500rub 2500rub from 3000r
    Rear door (sedan) 600rub 1400rub 2500rub from 3000r
    Threshold 1500rub 2000rub 5000r
    Rear panel 1200rub 2000rub 3800rub
    Radiator frame 1000r 2000rub 4500rub
    Hood (sedan) 1500rub 2500rub from 4000r
    Hood (coupe) 1500rub 2500rub from 4000r
    Roof (sedan) 2000rub 3500rub from 7000r
    Restoration of body geometry (distortion) on a stand from 5000 rubles
    Repair of plastic parts, welding of cracks-1 cm-40r
    Professional body polishing - from 5000 rubles, amateur - from 1000 rubles
    Partial painting of elements - from 1000 RUR

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    The nuances of welding the underbody of a car

    I won’t describe banal things about disconnecting the battery terminal, etc. - I’ll tell you about the non-obvious. First, the age-old question, which should generate many comments under the topic: should the bottom be welded end-to-end or overlapping? There are pros and cons to each method. The patch strictly along the contour of the hole in the bottom looks neat, but you will have to apply a continuous seam. There is a high risk of metal deformation and subsidence. It will overheat, which will worsen its strength characteristics and corrosion resistance. With the butt method, it will take a long time to adjust the size of the patches to avoid wide gaps.

    Overlapping patches look less attractive, but it's under the car, so who sees them there?! But overlap welding:

    How to treat the outside of the bottom after welding

    If the bottom is not covered with a protective layer, it will rot over the next couple of years. Confirmation is the service life of the muffler can - it is not treated and lasts for a maximum of 3 years. And we also have an intermittent seam, where moisture will get in. I suggest this procedure and how to treat the bottom of the car after welding from the outside:

    1. Cover the metal with body primer.
    2. Let it dry.
    3. Treat with bituminous compounds “Bitumen Anticorrosive”, “Epoxy Autoanticorrosive”, “Bitumen Mastic”.

    These are elastic products that adhere well to a vibrating surface. Pay special attention to the joints to fill the gaps. Inside the cabin, I recommend, if you have access to the joint, to apply sealant or blow it with wax.

    Price list (cost of work)

    Price list (welding works)*

    Replacement of the threshold, external part, anti-corrosion welds and points on the inside is included in the price 2000 - 3000 rub.
    Replacing the threshold amplifier 1000 - 1750 rub.
    Replacing the interior section of the threshold 1000 - 1750 rub.
    Replacing a section of the floor - the junction with the threshold 1000 - 1750 rub.
    Replacing the outer part of the arch repair kit 2000 - 3000 rub.
    Replacing the inner part of the arch 1250 - 1750 rub.
    Removing rust at the repair site 500 – 1500 rub.
    Replacing rotten areas of the floor 500 – 5000 rub.

    Price list (painting work)

    Coating the outer/inner part of the threshold/arch with epoxy primer/acrylic primer/acid (phosphating) primer 500 - 1000 rub.
    Anti-corrosion treatment of hidden cavities 1500 - 3000 rub.
    Anti-corrosion treatment of the bottom and internal arches 2500 - 4000 rub.
    Puttying the welded areas of the threshold/arch (without finishing preparation for painting) 500 - 2000 rub.
    Application of anti-corrosion mastic coating to the inside of the arch 500 – 1000 rub.
    Applying anti-gravel to the inside of the arch 500 – 1000 rub.
    Applying joint sealant 500 – 1000 rub.
    Covering other areas of the vehicle with soil 500 – 2000 rub.
    Anti-corrosion of welds and points on the inside of the body element 250 rub.

    Price list (threshold production)

    Production of thresholds for partial repairs, steel 1 mm 1000 – 1500 rub.
    Production of entire thresholds, steel 1 mm 1000 - 2000 rub.

    * Attention! the final cost of welding work is determined only after opening the damaged areas of the car.

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