Which timing belt is better to choose for an 8 valve 87 hp grant?

March 10, 2021 Lada.Online 106 890 15
The timing belt, together with the tension and guide rollers, ensures the closing and opening of the valves according to the synchronous operation of the piston. If the timing belt breaks, the car will have to be towed to a service station, and in some cases, expensive engine repairs may be added. To avoid these problems, change the timing belt and rollers on time. Do you know which timing kit is best to buy?

Article numbers of original parts

Lada Granta, Kalina with 8-valve engines (VAZ 11183):

  • Belt - 21080100604010 (“BalakovoRezinoTekhnika” PJSC Balakovo)
  • Tension roller assembly - 21080100612000 (“VPK” JSC Vologda)
  • Tension roller assembly - 21080100612001 (TD EPK LLC, Moscow)

Timing kit 2108 - 21080100604086 (Gates CIS LLC, Moscow). The kit includes a belt and a roller. This is the GATES K015521 kit, only in LADA branded packaging.

Lada Granta, Kalina, Priora with 8-valve engines (VAZ 11186, 11189)

:

  • Toothed belt assembly - 21116100604000 (Gates CIS LLC, Moscow)
  • Toothed belt assembly - 21116100604082 (Gates CIS LLC, Moscow)
  • Tension roller - 21116100623800 (Gates CIS LLC, Moscow)
  • Tension roller - 21116100623882 (Gates CIS LLC, Moscow)

Timing kit - 21116100604086 (Gates CIS LLC, Moscow). The kit includes a belt and a roller. This is the GATES K015670XS kit, only in LADA branded packaging.

Lada Granta, Kalina, Priora, Largus Vesta, XRAY with 16-valve engines (VAZ 21126, 21127, 21129 and 21179)

:

  • Reinforced toothed belt - 21126100604000 (Gates CIS LLC, Moscow)
  • Reinforced toothed belt - 21126100604082 (Gates CIS LLC, Moscow)
  • Toothed belt - 21126100604001 (ContiTech Antriebssysteme GmbH)
  • Support roller - 21126100613500 (“Lada Holding” GMBH Vienna)
  • Support roller assembly - 21126100613501 (Schaeffler Technologies GmbH & Co. KG)
  • Automatic toothed belt tensioner - 21126100623800 (“Lada Holding” GMBH Vienna)

Timing kit 21126 - 21126100604086 (Gates CIS LLC, Moscow). The kit includes a belt and 2 rollers. This is the GATES K015631XS kit in LADA branded packaging, which is installed on the AVTOVAZ conveyor.

Timing drive kit VAZ 21179 for Lada Vesta, XRAY - 21177-1006040-86 (Belt - ContiTech, rollers - Schaeffler):

  • Belt Contitech 21126-1006040-01
  • Automatic toothed belt tensioner 21176-1006238-00 (Slovakia)
  • Support roller assembly 21126-1006135-01 (Germany)

Characteristics of Lada Granta timing belt

The Lada Granta gas distribution mechanism is driven by a belt. This type of device has been familiar to car enthusiasts for a long time. After all, the timing belt design migrated from the VAZ 2108 engine, which became the basis for all subsequent modifications of VAZ power plants. The Grant is equipped with two types of engines: an 8-valve engine and a 16-valve engine. The gas distribution system of the 16-valve power unit has a complex structure and increased dimensions compared to the 8-valve one. Accordingly, replacing the Granta timing belt becomes more complicated.

The main feature of the 16-valve device is the presence of two camshafts operating synchronously, in parallel with the crankshaft. The structure is located in the cylinder head. All three shafts are synchronized via a toothed belt. The main disadvantage of a timing belt drive is the unreliability of the belt itself. When it breaks or jumps, the valves meet the pistons and bend. The structure of the 16-valve timing belt is clearly shown in the photo.

16 valve unit

  1. Installation mark on the drive cover.
  2. Lid.
  3. Intake camshaft pulley.
  4. Phase disk (sensor).
  5. TDC mark on the camshaft.
  6. Exhaust camshaft pulley.
  7. Support roller.
  8. Tensioner roller.
  9. Drive belt.
  10. Pump pulley (coolant pump).
  11. Installation mark on the oil pump.
  12. Crankshaft alignment mark.
  13. Crankshaft pulley.

You can change the timing belt kit yourself. The main thing is to know about the presence and correct placement of installation marks. By the way, most foreign cars do not have such marks, so in this case VAZ cars have the advantage.

The eight-valve timing drive of the Lada Granta, compared to previous modifications of the car, looks simpler. The scheme is simple, because there is no idler roller and there is only one camshaft. The 8-valve timing device can be seen clearly in the photo.

If you have doubts about your own abilities, you should not try to replace the timing belt yourself, as you can cause even more damage. In addition, in a car service center such a procedure, performed on an 8-valve engine, is inexpensive. But in the case of a 16-valve engine, the price tag is usually much higher.

Replacing the timing belt on a 16-valve Granta engine

Access to the gas distribution device drive is covered with a plastic casing. To remove the cover, you need to unscrew five screws with a 5mm hex key. Pay special attention to the location of these screws. In the photo, number 1 shows the fastening screws of the top cover, and number 2 shows the fastening screws of the bottom cover. After unscrewing the five screws, the top cover must be lifted and removed from the engine.

If the car has a manual transmission, you need to engage fifth gear, lift the right front wheel and turn it clockwise. At the same time, it is necessary to inspect the belt for cracks, abrasions, delamination, etc. If the car is equipped with an automatic transmission, you need to remove the right front wheel and the boot (protective shield) on the right. Using a 17mm head, rotate the bolt securing the drive pulley for additional equipment (air conditioning, generator) and inspect the belt. If various defects and damage to the belt are diagnosed, it must be urgently replaced. Replacement will also be required if oil leaks, a malfunction of the water pump or tensioner roller are detected.

On a 16-valve engine, a broken belt drive will lead to a discrepancy in the angular position of the crankshaft and camshafts. As a result, the piston group will come into contact with the valves. As a result, repair work will be required.

Tests and tests

Experts from the Za Rulem magazine tested 36 drive belts - 6 copies of each from six different brands. The test results refer to specific product samples and do not allow us to judge the entire range of products of each item.

  • Continental, Germany. Approximate price 850 ₽. There can be no complaints about a belt that has stood for 400 hours on the stand and could continue to work. In our tests, only two products were able to demonstrate this.
  • Gates, UK. Approximate price 1150 ₽. 400 hours on the bench are sufficient grounds for unequivocal approval.
  • Trialli, China. Approximate price 700 ₽. 286 hours is, let’s say, a strong middle peasant, which, unlike the leaders, nevertheless became toothless, although it lasted quite a long time, exceeding the requirements of the technical specifications. At the same time, strength tests have shown that some belt parameters are even better than those of the champions.
  • Gates (fake with reference to Germany). Approximate price 350 ₽. Which is what needed to be proven: “You, priest, should not chase after cheapness.” After just 3 hours of life tests, the belt lost its “teeth”: a complete failure. Checking individual parameters confidently placed the product in last place: such belts cannot be installed!
  • Lynx, Japan. Approximate price 650 ₽. During endurance tests, the belt lasted 104 hours, after which some of the teeth were cut off. In general, not so little, but the leaders worked four times longer and were not injured! The remaining parameters are not failures, but overall we are looking at an mediocre product.
  • Balakovorezinotekhnika (BRT), Russian Federation. Approximate price 750 ₽. Just 1 hour on the stand instead of the champion 400 - what can I say? Alas, the teeth came off the cord almost immediately. It feels like the belts are made of raw rubber. Note that after drying, the cutting force of the tooth more than doubled - and this turned out to be the best result. But the breaking forces are low, and according to the results of bench tests - the penultimate place.

Purpose of the timing belt

Ensuring synchronized operation of the power unit mechanisms for cyclic supply of the fuel mixture into the combustion chamber with subsequent ignition.

Violation of the tact, operation, and cyclicity leads to instability in the supply of a lean / rich mixture. As a result, the engine does not operate at full power, and detonation can be seen at idle. The previous article () discussed in detail the purpose of the timing system. For additional information, use the provided link.

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We previously told you when to change the timing belt and rollers according to the manufacturer's regulations, as well as how to do it yourself.

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conclusions

Of course, a broken timing belt on a Lada Granta can cause a lot of problems. But this does not mean at all that we cannot do anything. There are some recommendations that will help you reduce the risk of such a breakdown to a minimum. The first step is to carefully check the condition of the belt. Some recommend checking the condition after 10 or 20 thousand kilometers. Also try to monitor the condition of the seals. It is not necessary to even look under the hood, since when they wear out, characteristic stains will appear on the asphalt. The flashing of the emergency lamp, which indicates problems with pressure and oil level, will also indicate problems. If this happens, then the engine must be turned off immediately and the reason for this “behavior” of the car must be found. When replacing the timing belt, only original spare parts should be used. But even branded parts will need to be constantly monitored.

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The surface of the toothed part of the belt should not have folds, cracks, undercuts of teeth and separation of fabric from rubber. The reverse side of the belt should not have wear, exposing the cord threads, or signs of burning. There should be no delamination or fraying on the end surfaces of the belt. If defects are found on the belt or there is a significant discrepancy between the belt tension control elements (see photo above), the belt must be replaced. You should also replace the belt with a new one if traces of engine oil are found on it (before installing a new belt, the cause of oil getting on the belt must be eliminated) or when replacing the coolant pump.

Attention! Failure of the timing belt (breakage and cutting of teeth) can lead to valves sticking into the pistons due to mismatch of the rotation angles of the crankshaft and camshaft and, as a result, to expensive engine repairs.

We replace the timing belt in accordance with the maintenance regulations every 75 thousand km or if defects are detected on the belt.

To avoid damaging the crankshaft position sensor, it must be removed.

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Timing belt replacement interval

The manufacturer indicates an interval of 60,000 km, after which the Granta liftback timing belt needs to be replaced. At the same time, every 15,000 km, it is necessary to carry out diagnostics of the drive belt in order to detect defects, delamination, and possible damage.

If the car is operated in rough, dusty terrain, under systematic loads, reduce the replacement interval by a third. Obviously, this is just a recommendation and not a commitment. In order to increase the service life, it is still better to listen to the advice of professionals.

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Diagnostics and replacement of the timing belt on an 8-valve engine

Before replacing it yourself, do not forget to carry out comprehensive diagnostics in order to study the general technical condition of the car, identify breakdowns and other malfunctions. To analyze mechanisms without preliminary diagnostics is the height of unprofessionalism.

Diagnostic stages:

  • We jack up the right side of the car and hang it at a sufficient height so that the wheel rotates freely by hand;
  • We activate fifth gear;
  • In the engine compartment, remove the plastic casing and turn the drive belt. We assess its condition and decide whether replacement is necessary.

After the final decision on replacement has been made, we begin dismantling. We first prepare a set of automotive tools, rags, a new belt, and a roller bearing. Bearing replacement is required. The service life is approximately equal to that of the drive belt.

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Installation of all shafts according to marks

First check that the gear is in neutral.
There is a rubber cover on the crankcase body closer to the clutch assembly. It needs to be removed. The point is to achieve alignment of the marks on the flywheel and in the scale slot. When this is done, fix the flywheel with a screwdriver.

Of course, it is easier to perform such an operation with two people. Know that the desired position of the shaft corresponds to the alignment of marks AB and CD (see figure).

The crankshaft itself must be rotated to the right using a 17 or 19 key (motor 11183).
The meaning of this is illustrated in the photo. The alternator belt must be removed.
The alternator belt blocks access to the timing drive parts. You will have to loosen the fastening and remove this belt.

Use a 13mm wrench to loosen the lower mounting bolt. Then unscrew the upper fastening nut and remove the bolt. The generator casing is pressed against the engine and the structure is secured with wire. The belt can now be removed. Installation of the alternator belt is carried out in the following sequence:
1
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Secure the generator; 2
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Throw the belt over the pulleys, as shown in the photo; 3
. Having engaged 5th gear, roll the car back.

Please be aware that reusing the alternator belt is a last resort. It would be better to buy a new part.

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Replacing the timing belt Lada Granta liftback 8 valves

  • We place the car within the perimeter of the repair area, squeeze the handbrake, open the hood, and the gearshift lever in the “neutral” position;
  • We reset both terminals from the battery to avoid a short circuit in the network;
  • Remove the decorative plastic panel in the timing belt area;
  • Using a flat-tip screwdriver, make marks on the outer perimeter of the gear and the cylinder body (block);
  • By rotating the crankshaft pulley, we align the actual mark with the dead center;
  • We tear off the crankshaft pulley mounting nut;
  • Unscrew the tensioner pulley mount, reduce the belt tension, unscrew the generator mount, remove the belt from its seat on the pulley;
  • We carry out troubleshooting and assess the condition of the teeth. If there is no deformation, replace it with a new belt. We will also inspect the cooling system pump; its operation should be quiet, without noise or wedge. The presence of the opposite indicates a malfunction and the need for prevention;
  • Upon completion, we assemble the structure in the reverse order with the obligatory installation of new components.

To make sure that the process was completed successfully, turn the crankshaft pulley 1 - 2 turns. The rotation should be relatively easy. We check the matches of the marks. A deviation of 1 - 2 mm is allowed, no more. Self-replacement of the timing belt Lada Granta liftback is over.

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