Underestimated grant. Planted Granta: how to lower it, pros and cons

Lowering a car is a tuning activity that is mostly done by young people. Omitting Grant means attracting more attention, but how right it is!

to do is another question. Today we will talk about the main methods of lowering a car.

Air suspension

Let's start with the most expensive way to lower or raise a car - air suspension. This method is unlikely to interest the masses, so we suggest just watching the video.

Let us recall that in the previous article we looked at ensuring that the gearbox serves for a long time and reliably.

Suspension kit with adjustable ground clearance.

Such sets are also not very popular. It is worth noting the stiffness of the shock absorbers, which is adjusted automatically, and if necessary, it is possible to change the ground clearance yourself, without removing anything. On the one hand, it’s convenient: in winter you can make the car taller, in summer – lower, but on the other hand, the price is high.

Lowering suspension kit

The most popular way to lower a car (the smart method) is a lowered suspension kit. It includes shock absorbers and springs. You dismantle the old kit, install a new one, and you get a competently lowered car.

Lada Granta lowered by 12 centimeters

Lada Granta lowered by 9 centimeters

Lowered springs

If you install lowered springs without replacing shock absorbers with suitable ones, then you get many disadvantages, and only one advantage - budget. It’s even easier to lower the grant - cut the springs. Such tuning saves time and money, but further operation of the car will still come back to haunt you.

In the basic configuration, the ground clearance of the Lada Granta Sedan and Lada Granta Liftback is 160 mm. The clearance height is quite enough to overcome all road obstacles.

Low Granta Liftback

Tuning enthusiasts often practice the so-called understatement of Grants. To do this, non-standard suspension elements are installed, and the vehicle's ground clearance is reduced by 30 - 70% of the base one.

The advantages and disadvantages of tuning and how to carry it out will be discussed below.

Ways to understate Liftback Grants

1. Buying an air suspension on a Lada. The average cost is from 37 to 50 thousand rubles, depending on the place of purchase and technical characteristics.
2. Front and rear suspension kit with mechanical ride height adjuster. If necessary, we independently adjust the suspension height, reduce (increase) the stiffness of the shock absorbers.
3. The most cost effective option is to install a lowered suspension kit. We dismantle the standard shock absorbers and springs and install new ones on the factory mounts. The lowered Lada Granta is ready.
4. Low-profile tires: changing the car's shoes to a low-profile range. Cheap and cheerful, but not advisable.
5. Installation of lowering springs, which are sold at retail. We select the height according to the ground clearance.
6. Trimming one or two coils on factory springs.

Revision options

Sawing the springs

Among owners of AvtoVAZ models, the method of self-refinement is widespread, when the owner of the car simply cuts off one or several coils from the spring, depending on how much he intends to lower the car.

However, such “rework” is not welcomed by mechanics. After all, the coils are cut “by eye”, and this can provoke a deterioration in controllability, especially at high speeds.

Installing lowering springs

It is the installation of lowered springs on the Lada Vesta that is considered the best option for the model. However, these components are produced at the factory, in compliance with the relevant requirements, and have also passed quality control tests. In any case, this method of modification is much more reliable.

Two wheels or four?

This is another controversial point. The fact is that often such springs are installed (or standard ones are cut off) only on the rear axle, while the front axle is ignored. However, doing this is highly not recommended.

After all, the bodies of modern cars (including Vesta) are designed in such a way that the front end is tilted forward. Thanks to this, the oncoming air flow presses the front end to the road, which improves handling, especially at high speeds.

After thoughtlessly lowering the rear springs, the front end “lifts up”, causing the air flow to get under the car, worsening the traction of the front wheels with the road.

This means that if you intend to install lowered springs on your Lada Vesta yourself, it is strongly recommended to install a complete set - on the front and rear axles.

Cost of equipment for tuning Lada Grants

Lowered suspension on Grant

*prices are current as of October 19, 2018.

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Conclusion

The lowered stance on the Grant is beautiful, but not practical if you live in rough terrain. In everyday life, such tuning is not useful. The final decision is up to the car owner.

Sequence of actions for self-lowering Lada Granta

Option No. 1 Installation of short springs

Lowering springs

Let's look at how to properly lower the Granta Sedan.

1. We place the car on a flat platform, secure the rear row of wheels with wheel chocks, and activate the parking brake lever.
2. Jack up the front part (side) of the car and remove the wheels.
3. Unscrew the upper and lower fastenings of the front shock absorber assembly and disconnect it from the hub. We remove it from the wheel arch.
4. We disassemble the front strut module into its component parts: shock absorber, spring, support bearing, bowl, nuts.
5. In place of the standard spring, install a new one (short one). Depending on the wishes of the owner, the spring height will be 30 mm, 50 mm, 70 mm.

If the owner does not pursue any specific goals when tuning, it is enough to limit the size to 30 or 50 mm. When choosing the specified parameters, there is no need to replace the standard shock absorber or insert additional rubber spacers under the support bearing mount.

We assemble the structure in reverse order.

Where can I buy?

You can buy lowering springs for Lada Vesta via the Internet by ordering them in one of the stores. However, it is worth considering that there are several options on sale:

1. -30 mm;
2. -50 mm;
3. -70 mm.

As for production, the leader in the Russian market in this regard is the Techno Ressor company.

The most popular sites with prices are presented in the table.

In addition, for lowering springs it is highly recommended to purchase shock absorbers from Techno Springs. Moreover, they can be either similar to the original ones, but with increased rigidity, or shortened, especially for -50 mm springs.

Price and parameters are indicated in the table.

However, some people prefer not to install new shock absorbers on the lowered springs on the Lada Vesta, but simply partially cut off the bump stop on the standard ones. This option can also be implemented.

The optimal understatement is considered to be up to -50. Only up to -50 the spring on a standard strut will not force the body. You must understand that this type of suspension is more suitable for on-road driving rather than off-road driving. You will have to drive over any bumps with greater caution.

Also, along with lowering, it makes sense to install low-profile tires, for example hankook tires.

Option #2: Installing a complete suspension kit

New suspension with lowering
The process is similar to that described above:

1. After hanging the car and removing the wheel, unscrew the fastenings of the shock absorbers, hub, ball joint tip, suspension arm, and silent blocks.
2. We remove the parts one by one, installing new sets.
3. We complete the assembly, the ground clearance is lowered by 3 - 7 cm.

Note to the driver!

Service center technicians do not recommend installing the air suspension on the Lada Granta yourself in “garage” conditions. Due to the complexity of the design, the work must be carried out by professionals. Subsequently, quality assurance will be provided.

Disadvantages of lowered suspension on Grant

• limited vehicle operation area;
• mandatory presence of a smooth road surface, absence of gravel, crushed stone, coarse and medium-sized stones;
• restrictions on the number of transported cargo and passengers;
• frequent need for technical inspection and maintenance;
• premature failure of air suspension elements during frequent use in winter.

How best to make an understated Grant:

• seek qualified assistance from service station specialists;
• install components only under warranty;
• exclude handicraft repairs.

Today we will tell you how to lower the suspension of the Lada Kalina 2 and all the intricacies of this difficult matter. From the standard, rather ridiculous, suspension, we will make an original lowered suspension, which will undoubtedly attract the attention of passers-by and other car enthusiasts.

There are several inexpensive options - air suspension and adjustable suspension. But this is quite expensive and we will approach the understatement thoroughly and do everything to the highest standard.

What exactly needs to be done?

The stock suspension of the Lada Kalina 2 is quite good. The springs aren't too soft and the shock absorbers do their job well. But still, the car does not behave very well when cornering; at high speed the body rolls a little. We decided to change the standard springs and purchased ones that were already lowered and stiffer than stock ones.

The understatement will be -50 rear and -50 front.
The shock absorbers were also replaced with new ones. Standard hatchback dimensions
The purchased springs fit the car perfectly. The struts and levers were also changed. We recommend that you use an overpass or suspend the car - this will significantly simplify the entire procedure for replacing springs and shock absorbers. First you need to loosen the central rod - to do this, unscrew the three fastening nuts. Next, unscrew the steering tip (but first you need to disconnect the brake hose) and disconnect the strut, having first unscrewed the three support nuts. We tighten the spring using zip ties and unscrew the support. Now we change the spring and assemble everything by analogy.

Everything is much simpler with shock absorbers at the rear. In the rear part of the cabin, you need to unscrew the strut rod. We get there through the trunk. From below, you need to unscrew the shock absorber fastening to the rear beam, remove the entire strut along with the spring. Now we replace the rack and install everything back.

Final stage

Of course, ultimately you need to go to a service station and check the car for wheel alignment. After all, when working with the suspension, you could easily break the camber angles. So this is a very important stage!

We have done work to lower the Lada Kalina 2 and the handling has become much better.

From the outside, the car also began to look much more beautiful.

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Russian car enthusiasts are already driving around the Lada Vesta sedan on the roads of many cities in the country, and some (mostly young) are seriously thinking about the lowered Lada Vesta.

Whether this model will be in demand - the designers did not think about it, so the lowered Lada Vesta will not be implemented in serial configurations

. But thanks to independent tuning, it is still possible to achieve the desired characteristics.

The reduced ground clearance will be available exclusively for the sports version of the car for official events.

Principles of understatement

The new year 2016 has not yet brought new trends to automotive fashion, so understated cars in narrow circles are still considered the pinnacle of stylistic superiority. How exactly is a car body lowered?

If this procedure is carried out according to all the rules, then it occurs in several stages. Firstly, the shock-absorbing springs of the suspension are shortened, due to which the body sags. Secondly, after this the suspension must be reworked - the procedure is quite complex, requires professional calculations, and is therefore time-consuming and expensive.

Due to the high costs of the second stage of development, the lowered Lada Vesta in the version in which it can already be seen on the streets of Russia is rarely processed according to the rules. Owners simply shorten the springs (by heating or trimming) or remove the shock absorbing springs. In this case, the wheels go deep into the wheel arches of the body, the ground clearance is reduced to several centimeters (unless, of course, you change the wheels to larger ones installed on low-profile tires).

Advantages and disadvantages of the lowered Lada Vesta

Naturally, the lowered Lada Vesta has a number of advantages and disadvantages relative to the standard factory version of the sedan. They should be described in more detail.

The first advantage is a slight improvement in handling, acceleration and a slight reduction in fuel consumption. The aerodynamics of the car are improving.

At high speeds, additional downforce is created by the flowing air stream, which increases grip. On the contrary, the friction force of the air flow becomes smaller, thereby reducing power losses. The second advantage lies solely in appearance - some car enthusiasts prefer to see a car with low ground clearance.

There are many more disadvantages. Firstly, the condition of roads in many regions of the country does not allow high enough speeds to be reached without danger to the driver and other road users. Secondly, low ground clearance does not allow you to cross curbs, increases the likelihood of landing on the bottom in rural areas, after heavy snowfall, or even on a speed bump in front of a pedestrian crossing (such cases have already happened, there is numerous evidence of this in the form of photos and amateur videos ). Thirdly, the price of a qualitative understatement will be very high. Fourthly, saving on lowering and simply shortening the shock-absorbing springs without reworking the suspension will greatly reduce its service life - and the money saved will quickly be spent on repairs or replacement of elements that are deteriorating.

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Comments 18

Well, I’ll check in here. Replaced it as a set. Everything else is a collective farm www.drive2.ru/l/5451862/ www.drive2.ru/l/6260204/

Are these struts complete with springs already assembled?) And there are barrel springs on the grunts in front. Why do you have these?) Can you post the website?)

Yes, the complete sets were sent, everything was assembled, I didn’t take the barrel ones, the regular ones are softer. I bought it here postavto.ru

I changed everything as a set, not for appearance, but for control, the car drives completely differently

Here the struts are -70 and the springs are -50, it’s kind of timid that they don’t fit everything) well, or is this normal. I think, on the contrary, you can set the struts -50, and the springs -70)))

for struts (short-stroke), the steering knuckle is shifted down by 20mm, in short, the spring also becomes -70. This is a typical scheme on KX. PS “-50” “-70” is the difference in the compressed springs compared to the standard ones. It’s not at all a fact that the car will sit this much.

So, do they play a big role?

everything should be coordinated simply

I changed everything as a set, not for appearance, but for control, the car drives completely differently

Well, or -70 struts in front and cut the rear. On the original racks.

Well, will the rod fit into position, or will it hang on the bump stop, what’s the point?

In the basic configuration, the ground clearance of the Lada Granta Sedan and Lada Granta Liftback is 160 mm. The clearance height is quite enough to overcome all road obstacles.

Low Granta Liftback

Tuning enthusiasts often practice the so-called understatement of Grants. To do this, non-standard suspension elements are installed, and the vehicle's ground clearance is reduced by 30 - 70% of the base one.

The advantages and disadvantages of tuning and how to carry it out will be discussed below.

Verdict

With the right approach, the lowered Lada Vesta will be an excellent car if there are good roads. However, there is no need for underestimation, since the Lada Vesta already shows quite decent performance characteristics.

“Oh God, what a machine, I want to cut a spring!”, “The higher the mountains, the lower the Priors” - familiar lines? The fashion for lowered cars came to us either from the West or from the Caucasus, you can’t remember now, but the popularity of this movement was amazing, and there are followers to this day.

And indeed, there is something about these brutal vases that almost lie on their bellies on the asphalt. There are also opponents, what would we do without them? Many people do not like this fashion and they openly say so. But, as they say, all markers have different tastes and colors! For example, AvtoVAZ engineers don’t like “mundane” cars at all, they have their own feature. Perhaps they take into account the peculiarities of Russian roads, or, more accurately, their absence, or maybe they create their new models not for asphalt, but more for country and dirt roads? Unclear! One thing is clear, the gap in the arches is large, the new Vestas look like off-road sedans and, frankly, quite ridiculous. If you compare the gap between the wing and the wheel on Vesta and the same parameter on an average foreign car, you will notice that Vesta has it much larger. Some consider this a great achievement and a clear advantage, while others, on the contrary, do not understand why this is needed and for what purpose the engineers increased this parameter so much.

Today I want to talk about understating the Lada Vesta, why they do it and whether it makes sense. About the pros and cons of this procedure, as well as about options for implementing this type of suspension tuning.

Many Vesta owners agreed that the ground clearance of the Lada Vesta is too high, which is why the car, in principle, with a good design, looks ridiculous and meager. Many simply got used to it, while others corrected this, as it seems to me, flaw. This is not about an abnormal lowering of the car on its belly, but about a slight decrease in ground clearance and gaps in the arches.

There are two options: cut the springs yourself, or buy ready-made shortened Technoressor springs -50 mm or -30 mm. Of course, the first option will be cheaper, but you will have to tinker, the second will be much simpler, but this is a full-fledged replacement of springs, which means waste accordingly.

Among other things, these two methods also have different effects. No, both options, in principle, give the same result, but as Vestovody, who tried both options, note, there are still differences. The original springs, in which 1-2 or 3 coils were cut off, are stiffer and more elastic, so the handling becomes better and the car behaves better in corners. As for the factory products Tehnoressor -50 or -30, many argue that they are softer, the car becomes lower, but the driving performance is slightly worse compared to its original trimmed counterparts. But at the same time, both options are better than stock long springs.

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Comments 31

well, yes, it all depends on the WEIGHT of the engine and gearbox, now I have a grant on a Japanese automatic and the engine is, accordingly, a Priorovsky one - so those -40 springs are just right for me now

but on an 8 valve engine and with a simple gearbox they were too rigid

If we count by kg/cm, then judging by the last table the Priora has 19 kg/cm, right? The simple prior spring seems very stiff compared to the 9th one. For example, if we install springs from 12k (20 kg/cm) on a 9k, we won’t feel much of a difference, but a car with a prior spring becomes really stiff. Why is it interesting?

He thinks wrong. In short, 1119 = 19 kgf/cm, 2170 = 20.5 kgf/cm. Springs 2108 also have 19 kgf/cm. 1119 is an analogue. This is all on paper, and if there is at least some detailed information about 2108, then about mubia is optional.

Mubea is considered at least a serious company, in my opinion a Czech manufacturer, unlike all Russian manufacturers (except for the springs supplied to the VAZ conveyor - they write the characteristics of the springs) mubea also indicates the stiffness of the springs. I bought a sport from Viburnum for myself, you can’t find them during the day, luckily for me I saw used ones in the window, the seller didn’t even know that they were from a Viburnum sport, he claimed that they were from grants. And 25kg/cm (according to the author) is not so much, 40kg is a lot. I set myself 35 kg/cm from the classics, although they were cut into 1.5 turns, according to the athletes it turned out to be about 43 kg/cm, and the car sags on them only a couple of centimeters

Then why do the Priora have stiffer springs? It seems to be the same as 2112. At least this is how it should be for a mubia with performance characteristics. Mubia are like Germans.

Friend, 8 months ago I thought that the springs were stiffer, but in fact it’s not the springs that are to blame, but the struts. The 2112 seems to have 22 kg/cm, but if you remove your struts and make them out of something stiffer, then the car will work harder

I will list the advantages of lowering the Lada Vesta

• More attractive and modern appearance. The car takes on a more dignified appearance and looks exactly the way it should look. The gap becomes the same as on foreign cars.
• The suspension becomes stiffer, which improves handling. The steering becomes sharper, rolls disappear, and you can take turns at much higher speeds.
• Pecks disappear during braking and stopping.
• At high speeds the car has better handling and stability.
• By reducing the altitude, the resistance is reduced, which ultimately results in fuel savings of approximately 0.5 l./100 km.
• After you lower the Lada Vesta, the expensive, beautiful wheels look simply gorgeous, compared to how these same wheels would have looked before the lowering.
• Many owners who lowered their Vestas note that knocks and squeaks when driving over uneven surfaces have disappeared. This can be explained by the fact that the suspension travel has become less and, in general, its operation has changed. Most have disappeared from the chassis.

Goals

As a rule, installing lowered springs on the Lada Vesta, as well as on other models, aims to make the car more stylish and aggressive. Some also strive to reduce car roll and wave buildup, but in general this is of secondary importance.

As for appearance, everything is subjective. Some people are impressed by the look of this Vesta, they find it more profitable. Others, on the contrary, consider the standard option to be optimal. Therefore, this is a matter of taste.

What are the disadvantages of understating Vesta?

• Well, naturally, now you will have to drive over bumps more carefully and slowly. There is a risk of the bottom or front bumper hitting bumps and bumps on the road.
• You will also have to be more careful when parking. Opening the doors should also be included in this point; after lowering the VAZ, most likely you will hit the curb with the bottom of the doors.
• Outside the city and on rough terrain, on such a lowered Vesta, you have a very high chance of damaging your car. The road to some places will simply be closed to you. On unclean roads, your bumper will be more susceptible to damage and act as a snow shovel.
• In winter, most likely, snow will collect and stick in narrower arches, which will one way or another cause you some inconvenience.

My opinion…

But, be that as it may, in my opinion, all these advantages are insignificant compared to the above disadvantages. In addition, in order to reassure those who are planning to lower the Lada Vesta, but are worried about ground clearance and ground clearance, I want to add a few words from myself. Reducing the ground clearance on Vesta is not an excess or some kind of ridiculous tuning, and it is not a tribute to fashion. Lowering Vesta is, indeed, a necessary measure that can significantly improve a number of indicators of this car, as well as make its appearance more rapid and attractive. This event should be considered simply a correction of one of AvtoVAZ’s many “jambs”. In general, this is a mistake that needs to be corrected so that the car becomes the way it was originally intended.

Suspension of VAZ Lada Priora, Kalina, Granta: Pros and cons, why compare with Logan?

We have already compared the suspension of front-wheel drive VAZ cars with foreign cars using the Renault Logan as an example. Logan has a very successful suspension, about which many have given various positive reviews. So, reading comments, I often hear that Logone supposedly cannot drive fast and is a dangerous car. According to accident statistics, on the contrary, Renault Logan is the safest car.

Why am I comparing the suspension of the VAZ with the Logan? Most often, Logan is bought by people who have no desire to drive, but want to drive in comfort from point a to point b, for minimal money. That is why Logan gained fame as a vegetable car. Some even say that there is a nauseating driving style, well, this is complete nonsense. Logans today have engines with 102 hp and 16 valves for those who like to chase)

The whole point is that Logan’s body is set high and because of this, in the wind, it sails more strongly. Also, high ground clearance makes the car taller. This gives greater off-road capability and large space in the car interior. But after 120, the suspension is rebuilt and the car is pressed harder against the asphalt (personal experience is that my Logan bites into the track at speeds over 140).

Having learned that Logan is most often used in taxis, Renault engineers even removed the anti-roll bar from the suspension.

The wheelbase of the car is quite wide and, compared to other Logan cars, it holds the road very well. For this reason, it does not need a stabilizer bar as much as other cars. This makes the suspension a little simpler and a little more reliable due to the absence of the need to replace the stabilizer struts. It must be admitted that there are cars with even more interesting suspensions, but the price for them will most often be higher. It is precisely due to the price and similar ground clearance parameters that the suspension of Logan and Sandero can be compared with VAZ's.

Dispute about design, taste and color of all markers are different:

Well, isn't he handsome? Is this design really that ugly? No, I’ll tell you why they say that, they envy and want to prick with envy! Just compare these two photos, isn’t it true that there isn’t much of a difference, in which part of the Priora is more beautiful? Design is such a subjective matter!

Vesta already has a more modern suspension design and is in no way inferior to foreign cars in its driving performance. We can say that AvtoVAZ only reached the level of foreign cars when it released Vesta and Xray. Which were created jointly with Renault and Nissan companies based on their technologies and using the famous B0 platform.

But is the suspension of the pre-West generation Lada so bad? Advantages of the Lada suspension: Price - fewer parts and components make the suspension design simpler and cheaper. Maintainability - since the suspension is very simple, it is much cheaper to repair than that of foreign cars. Reliability - yes, it will knock and hold together, it will move, since no one has canceled the classic MacPherson strut and this is a reliable, time-tested unit. Disadvantages of the Lada suspension: Lack of a subframe - since there is no subframe, the arms are attached directly to the body and this makes the suspension more rigid. Impacts to the suspension immediately transfer to the body. Low comfort - since all the shocks of the suspension are transmitted directly to the body, naturally, this is constantly felt by the whole body. This problem is especially troubling for people with spinal problems. Noise is very common, no matter what you do, but there is a knocking sound in the suspension and it is very difficult to understand where it is coming from. You can change everything and still somewhere there will be this unpleasant knock, which is difficult to calculate. Often it occurs because the suspension mounting units break and gaps appear in the places where the silent blocks are attached. Less rigidity of the body - due to the absence of a subframe, the body plays more strongly on bumps and turns, which reduces the car’s handling. So why is everything so bad, and no, not everything, for those who want to improve the characteristics of the Lada’s suspension, there is a subframe for sale!

In the photo there is a subframe for Kalina NFR.
Summary: Of course, not everything is as bad as it seems and the suspension is still quite reliable and durable.
Some claim that they drove more than 150 thousand on it without a single replacement, but you and I understand that probably the person has hearing loss and is satisfied with that clanging underfoot. For those people who are not picky, this is a normal suspension that does not make noise and is even comfortable. Very often they talk about VAZ cars, you can hear the opinion that you can’t buy anything cheaper, it’s a budget car, there’s nothing to criticize. I assure you, on the secondary market you can always find cars of better quality and comfort, and for the same money.

The fact that many people claim that a new car is the best car is stupidity. Because I think this does not apply to Lada. People who don't have money are unlikely to buy a new car from VAZ. And those who have money will still buy at least Logan, Polo or Solaris/Rio. These models will already have a good modern suspension, as well as silence in the cabin and comfort at the level of a foreign car.

How do you feel about the VAZ suspension, write your comments.

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Implementation of cutting springs or installing Technospring?

Here everyone will choose their own, the main thing is that the work is done efficiently and correctly. There are a lot of options, some put Technoressor -30 in the back, and -30 in front, others - the same. Some people like the option of cutting springs, and they also cut at their own discretion, some 2 or 3 turns, here it is important not to overdo it.

Some argue that replacement doesn’t even require a lift or pit, all you need to do is hang the wheels as much as possible. The rack assemblies are removed, after which the springs are dismantled. Marking and trimming is carried out. If you are going to lower Vesta by installing ready-made shortened springs, all you need to do is remove the old ones and install new springs.

An important nuance. During this event, it is necessary to trim the rubber bumpers of the shock absorbers. You should trim depending on how much you shorten the springs.

Afterwards the assembly and checking of the work results is carried out. The car should stand level without distortions, the gaps in the arches should be the same. If there are discrepancies, it means the work was carried out with violations. Repeated disassembly and carrying out calculations and measurements will correct this.