Modifications of Lada Granta - types of gearboxes
Equipment | Gearbox type |
Lada Granta Sedan | |
Standard | MT |
Norm | AT/MT |
Lux | AT/MT |
Lada Granta Liftback | |
Standard | M.T. |
Classic | M.T. |
Classic Optima | MT/AMT |
Comfort | MT/AMT |
Luxe | MT/AMT/AT |
Luxe Prestige | M.T. |
What buyers don't like
Many buyers, leaving negative reviews, note the fact that the quality of the paintwork on the doors and trunk on the inside wants to be the best. There are places of unpainted metal, which causes strong dissatisfaction among buyers. This fact can be confirmed, since the problem was also observed in the previous version of this model, but this drawback does not in any way affect the performance characteristics of the car. Moisture does not get into these places, they are not susceptible to corrosion and in most cases are completely covered with protective plastic.
Lada Granta 2022 reviews are complemented by those who note the incorrect operation of the automated box. Buyers say that the AMT gearbox does not change gears correctly while driving. This fact has not been confirmed; most likely, drivers are trying to drive the car aggressively, which this model is not designed for, which is why such negative elements appear in the reviews. However, if you are looking for a car for aggressive driving, then it is better to pay attention to other models.
Negative aspects also include the standard audio system. Indeed, in this model you will not be able to enjoy clear and spacious sound during a long trip. Drivers have to change elements of the audio system in order to achieve clear and high-quality sound.
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Automatic transmission background information
Jatco - four-speed automatic transmission with transverse arrangement. Factory index JF414. Installed on Lada Granta Sedan/Liftback cars.
Initially, the Jatco JF414 automatic machine was manufactured to equip the Japanese brands Nissan and Suzuki. Since 2013, the Zhatko automatic transmission has been equipped with the Chinese automobile brand March.
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Explanation of the abbreviation JF414:
- J – Jatco;
- F - front-wheel drive;
- 4 — number of gears;
- 14 — ordinal modification index;
- E - electronic control.
Convenience and reliability of automatic transmission on Lada Granta
There is an opinion among experts that the Japanese classic 4-speed automatic transmission Jatco JF414E (AY-K3) is the most reliable and wear-resistant part of the Lada Granta. Motorists note that its service life is longer than that of all other components of this model. And indeed, this automatic transmission is time-tested: in addition to Lada and Datsun, this gearbox was installed on Nissan, Micra and Almera. Now mounted on Geely MK. Other automatic transmissions of this family were installed on Nissan Note, Daewoo Matiz, and Kia Picanto.
Reviews of Lada Granta automatic
№ | Positive |
1. | Vladimir: the transmission is functional, picks up from the bottom, picks up speed very quickly from the start at traffic lights. |
2. | Kirill: a vigorous start from a standing start, which is convenient and practical in megacities. Fuel consumption is 1.0 liter more than the mechanical type, but for me this is not significant. |
3. | Vyacheslav: the dynamics of picking up the lows is clearly noticeable on the machine. Unlike a number of other brands, including European ones, lethargy is not typical. |
4. | Ivan: The automatic transmission works quite smoothly, the moment of gear shifting is practically not felt. What is missing is sound insulation. Of course, it is present, but the thickness of the felt upholstery is not enough for complete silence. |
5. | Sergey: It’s very nice that when you sharply press the accelerator pedal, the “Kickdown” mode, the automatic transmission quickly shifts the gear to a lower position. You can feel the speed of transition when overtaking or sharp maneuvers. |
6. | Oleg: despite the lack of manual control in the automatic transmission, the manufacturer left manual control for the first two speeds. Very convenient and practical when overcoming road obstacles, |
7. | Vyacheslav: the machine has a mechanical “Overdrive” button preinstalled; turning it off helps to operate the engine at higher speeds. This is very convenient and practical when overcoming road obstacles, snow drifts, and shallow fords. |
Negative | |
1. | Alexander: despite numerous modifications to the Zhatko automatic transmission, vibrations and increased noise at speeds over 100 km/h are still present. This causes discomfort; the driver is forced to raise his voice so that passengers can hear him. |
2. | Ignat: a 16-valve engine is installed together with the automatic transmission, the maximum torque is set at the “top”. During rapid acceleration, the automatic transmission pulls the torque to the top, the tachometer needle borders on the red zone. At such moments, the roar of the engine in the cabin can be clearly heard. |
3. | Dmitry: during long climbs, the automatic transmission systematically shifts to lower gears, pushing the tachometer needle into the red zone. |
4. | Vasily: Unfortunately, Zhatko does not have a manual gear shift mode. This is very inconvenient if you frequently use the machine on rough terrain. Those who live on the periphery will understand me. |
5. | Vladimir: Zhatko’s gearbox is of the direct type. The “Drive” position is located third from the beginning. To move the selector to the “Drive” position, you need to take your attention away from the road. There is a preset indicator on the dashboard to indicate the current gear, but the display size is very small. |
6. | Victor: I don’t recommend this type of automatic transmission for the Lada Granta, as it’s already at 45,000 km. Replaced gaskets and solenoids. The torque converter clutches were also damaged. |
7. | Vasily: my sensors and the electrical ROM board of the automatic transmission “flyed”. The reason is a manufacturing defect. Fortunately, they replaced it free of charge under warranty. |
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Types of boxes on "Granta"
The front-wheel drive Lada Granta has been produced by Avtovaz JSC since 2011. It is important for the driver that it is convenient and easy to control the speed of the car. This factor is determined by the type of gearbox. In 2022, the transmission of a popular car is not only manual, automatic, but also robotic.
"Lada Granta" automatic
In the next generation, the designers promise to install a CVT on the Grant. The concern's designers plan to use Jatco products. CVTs from this manufacturer are mounted on Lada Vesta.
Technical specifications
Initially, the Granta was designed with a VAZ manual 5-speed transmission with index 2180. This box has a shift rod with a gear selection system. Since then, the manual transmission has been modernized several times.
A new variation of the gearbox came off the assembly line a year later. It was assigned the index 2181. The following elements were changed:
- instead of the shift rod, 2 cables were installed;
- the speed selection system is mounted on top of the box;
- The clutch housing has been improved, this has reduced the oil filling volume by 30%.
Thanks to the use of a cable system, vibration in the body has decreased, and speeds have become more clearly switched. In 2014, as a result of improved processing technology for gears and shafts, the noise when the machine moved was reduced.
Automated gear shifting for the machine model in question began to be installed in 2012. Uses JF414E with torque converter, 4 stages. Comes complete with engine 21126. In automatic transmissions, designers recommend using original oil, the recommended brand is ATF Genuine EJ-1. When buying a cheaper product, there is a risk of getting a fake. Gasoline consumption is higher than that of a manual.
The expensive automatic transmission was replaced by the AMT 2182, a robot. Its production began in 2015. The mechanical model became the basic one. An electromechanical drive manufactured by the German company ZF is installed instead of the cables and clutch pedal. The 5-speed robot gearbox is combined with the VAZ-21127 engine. This is a powerful (106 horsepower) engine.
Each vehicle has a passport. This document records not only information about the owner, but also the main technical characteristics of the car, including the type of transmission.
Advantages
Mechanical cars are distinguished by their unpretentiousness and endurance. This is the most affordable, simple and reliable transmission. The cost of a vehicle with a manual transmission is lower than that of a vehicle equipped with an automatic transmission or a manual transmission. The owner can independently diagnose the manual transmission using a simple test.
Reviews of the Lada Granta automatic transmission speak of its advantages:
- high strength;
- wear resistance;
- comfortable control;
- reliability.
If all maintenance requirements and operating rules are met, such a car can easily travel over 200 thousand km without repair. All automatic transmission breakdowns are associated with improper operation and improper maintenance of the machine.
The manual transmission works properly in 2 modes: automatic, manual. Compared to an automatic, the Granta AMT is much more economical. In addition, robotic AMT has the following advantages:
- manufacturability;
- modernity;
- significant improvement in dynamics;
- less gasoline consumption.
Since the manual transmission is based on the 2180 gearbox, when the vehicle is moving there is no loud hum, like with the 2181 manual transmission.
Flaws
Although the modified manual transmission is characterized by improved parameters, the disadvantages of this type of gearbox remain. When switching 2nd gear, some car owners note a crunching sound. Despite the cable drive of the box, gear shifting is not clear enough. When operating at 2nd and 3rd speed, the machine sometimes begins to howl and vibration is observed.
The Lada automatic requires frequent maintenance. If we ignore the higher cost of the car, higher fuel consumption, a slight decrease in acceleration speed, there are no other complaints about this type of transmission. Automatic transmission malfunctions occur more often due to the fault of those sitting behind the wheel:
- if you tow frequently, the clutches quickly burn out;
- after overheating, leakage of gaskets and seals may occur;
- If you hit an obstacle, the casing may be damaged.
Lada Granta with automatic transmission requires frequent maintenance
Let's look at the disadvantages of a robotic gearbox. Although the model is technologically advanced and modern, it has quite a few problems. The main disadvantages are:
- Manual transmission is much inferior to traditional automatic transmissions in terms of smooth shifting and convenience. Single-disc boxes of this type are obsolete: during their operation, delays are possible, jerks and shocks occur.
- Although there is no loud hum, a whine can often be heard when moving through the first two gears. But it is worth noting that after the new car is broken in, after a while the transmission stops howling.
- Occasionally, a robotic gearbox behaves abnormally. This is expressed in the fact that when moving in first gear and sharply pressing the acceleration lever, 2nd speed does not immediately engage.
The main disadvantage of the AMT gearbox is that when driving rapidly, jerks and jolts are observed at the moment of switching gears. The driver is recommended to switch to manual transmission, and then the robotic gearbox will practically turn into mechanics. When operating the vehicle in a quiet speed mode, this disadvantage does not exist.
Manual Transmission Background Information
The design of the Lada Granta manual transmission is nothing more than a modernized version of the manual transmission from the VAZ-2108. Until 2022, lever-type manual transmissions were installed. The new Lada Granta Sedan / Liftback (2018) is equipped with a cable gear shift mechanism.
Unlike the lever type, the cables are placed on top, which is convenient and practical when carrying out diagnostics and repairs. The shape of the clutch housing has also undergone changes and has become smaller in size. However, this did not affect the functionality of the manual transmission in any way.
Mechanics
Is it worth buying Lada Granta 2022: all the disadvantages, owner reviews, configurations and prices
- Initial version Standard includes only one airbag, audio preparation, ERA-GLONASS system, Isofix mount and 14-inch steel wheels.
Classic package is complemented by electric power steering and a tilt-adjustable steering column, front windows, two rear headrests, central locking and an on-board computer with an indicator of the optimal moment for shifting gears.
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Pros and cons of Lada Granta FL
+ Pros
- Spacious trunk
- Availability
- Suspension
- Minuses
- Manual transmission howls
- Dynamics
- Cramped interior
- Brakes
Reviews from owners of Lada Granta sedan 2019-2020
The engine is a simple and proven eight-valve engine. It pulls at the bottom, but the diesel engine idles and works like a tractor. But now it’s plug-free. And the timing belt is now recommended for replacement at (hold your breath) 180,000 km! I don’t believe it, but I’ll check it out!
Box. In a world that is rushing forward at breathtaking speed, there must be a place for traditions. How can I explain to my son that there was a GAZ-51 and a GAZ-52, and even the GAZ-53 had a box that howled... “How did it howl, dad?” And I proudly switch from third to second, saying: “That’s it”!
Alexander Pimenov, review of Lada Granta 1.6 (87 hp) manual transmission 2019
The cruise control is a little tricky when turning it on and off, but on the highway it’s a useful thing - it gives your leg a rest. The rain sensor scared me at first when the windshield wipers started working on their own when sprayed with water from oncoming traffic, but I think that the thing is also useful. Light sensor - well, this is normal for tunnels, but I don’t use it like that.
The trunk of 520 liters is the largest in its class, four wheels with discs fit easily. With the rear seat folded down, it carried 2.5 meter long skirting boards.
Vladimir, review of Lada Granta Lux Prestige 1.6 (106 hp) MT 2020
I have already bought my second Grant, only now a new one. I got normal brakes! On my first Grant, the travel was quite long before it set, and during the test drive of the luxury version there was a car with the same operating principle. Plus, in video reviews, people also noted this.
In general, this is still the same Granta with a normal engine by modern standards, with a good automatic transmission, which does not change a bunch of gears back and forth for the sake of some half-liter of savings, but is absolutely predictable and adequate on descents and ascents, with excellent dynamics for the city and maneuverability, which can be safely used, and not carefully moved, with a cool omnivorous suspension and decent ground clearance.
Review of Lada Granta Comfort 1.6 (98 hp) automatic, 2020.
Externally, I quite liked the Granta FL. The front part of the body is without question at all: modern, beautiful and harmonious. From the side, of course, the situation is a little worse, but the calico roots cannot be avoided, just as the width/height disproportion is visible from the rear, however, after moving the GRZ to the trunk lid, the appearance became a little more harmonious.
Salon. In general, I liked everything about the cabin, if you take into account the class and price of the car. In terms of space, of course, it’s a bit cramped, but not critical: “you can live,” that’s what I decided for myself... but it’s cheap!
Maxim, review about the new Lada Granta 1.6 (106 hp) manual 2020
Specifications
The new body of the Lada Granta 2022 is built on the basis of a front-wheel drive platform from Kalina with a transversely mounted engine. An independent MacPherson-type suspension is installed on the front axle of the four-door, and a semi-independent suspension with trailing arms and coil springs is installed at the rear.
In turn, the front wheels of the car received disc brakes, and the rear wheels received more affordable drum brakes. The Lada Granta FL sedan has the following overall dimensions, mm
- Length - 4 268
- Width - 1,700
- Height - 1,500
- Wheelbase - 2,476
- Ground clearance (clearance) - 145-160
The trunk volume of the four-door is 520 liters, and the fuel tank is installed at 50 liters. Curb weight varies from 1,040 to 1,100 kg and directly depends on the selected engine / configuration.
The line of power units of the Grant FL sedan is represented by three 1.6-liter four-cylinder engines that can work with manual, automatic or robotic transmissions.
- The most affordable version of the model is equipped with an eight-valve VAZ-11186 engine with a power of 87 hp. (140 Nm) and five-speed manual transmission. This car accelerates from zero to hundreds in 11.6 seconds, and its top speed is stated at 172 km/h.
- You can also choose a version with a sixteen-valve VAZ-21126 engine producing 98 horsepower (145 Nm). Only this unit comes in tandem with a four-speed Jatco automatic. Acceleration from 0-100 km/h is possible in 13.1 seconds, maximum speed is 176 kilometers per hour.
- The most powerful 16-valve engine VAZ-21127 develops 106 hp. and 148 Nm. This engine can work with either a five-speed manual or a robotic transmission. The version with a manual transmission is capable of accelerating from 0-100 km/h in 10.5 seconds, while the car with a robot is noticeably slower - 12.0 seconds. The maximum speed in both cases is 184 km/h.
Engine 1.6 (87 hp, 140 Nm) + manual (5) | |
Acceleration 0-100 km/h, s | 11,6 |
Maximum speed, km/h | 172 |
Consumption: city, highway, mixed, l | 9,1 / 5,3 / 6,8 |
Engine 1.6 (98 hp, 145 Nm) + automatic (4) | |
Acceleration 0-100 km/h, s | 13,1 |
Maximum speed, km/h | 176 |
Consumption: city, highway, mixed, l | 9,9 / 6,1 / 7,2 |
Engine 1.6 (106 hp, 148 Nm) + manual (5) | |
Acceleration 0-100 km/h, s | 10,5 |
Maximum speed, km/h | 184 |
Consumption: city, highway, mixed, l | 8,7 / 5,2 / 6,5 |
Engine 1.6 (106 hp, 148 Nm) + robot (5) | |
Acceleration 0-100 km/h, s | 12,0 |
Maximum speed, km/h | 184 |
Consumption: city, highway, mixed, l | 8,7 / 5,2 / 6,5 |
The Lada Grant sedan cannot be called frisky, and it has absolutely nothing to provoke the driver to drive fast. The lack of dynamics is especially felt in the version with a 98-horsepower engine with an automatic transmission. This modification picks up speed well only up to 40 km/h, after which the speedometer needle creeps up extremely slowly, and dynamics appear only during kickdowns.
Feedback on the steering wheel of the model is slightly sluggish, and the car turns at speed with slight rolls. Certain questions also arise regarding the braking process: the pedal is too soft, and the pickup begins to be felt only after 40% of the pressure.
However, the Granta is not a sports car to require anything more from it, and for a car of its class it handles well. At the same time, the main advantage of the model is the practically impenetrable suspension, which ensures a very smooth ride even on broken and undulating surfaces.
The front seats in the new Lada Granta 2022 after restyling began to please the eye, but not everyone will like the seating itself. The seat back is quite high and comfortable, and the cushion could be longer. In addition, the updated cars use slightly stiffer padding, which is why on a long journey the desire to get out and stretch will appear more often than on an old-style car.
In turn, the main disadvantage of the second row is the narrow space in the area of the lower part of the doorways, which makes getting in and out difficult. The rear sofa here is three-seater, but three adults will hardly be comfortable, but it is quite possible to seat two adults and one child.
Interesting Facts
The Lada Granta sedan entered production back in two thousand and eleven, and now an updated version of the model, which was presented at the Moscow Motor Show in the summer of '18, is on sale. In addition to the sedan, the family also includes a liftback, hatchback and station wagon.
Lada Granta FL in the new body has an X-shaped front end, made in the same style as on Vesta and XRAY cars. The bumper has undergone a complete revision, receiving an expanded air intake and chrome inserts in the form of boomerangs. The sedan also received new head optics, as well as a different radiator grille.
In the interior, after restyling, the front panel from Kalina was installed with minimal changes. The button illumination became white instead of green, the rectangular ventilation deflectors in the center acquired an X-shaped edging, and the instrument panel was designed in the style of Vesta - the digitization was made radial, and the scales acquired orange rims.
Among the innovations, it is worth noting the appearance in the wheel arches of soft fender liners made of a special material that do not absorb moisture and absorb impacts from pebbles, as well as a trunk lock with a button and an electromechanical drive. The robot has a “crawling” mode and a “Sport” button, which activates faster shifting, as well as a stronger clutch.
Photo of the new Lada Granta 2022
Video test drive of a car
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Owner reviews about Lada Granta mechanics
№ | Positive |
1. | Vyacheslav: in general, manual is better than automatic, especially for rough terrain. Poor quality road surfaces are not suitable for automatic transmissions. This is what became the key factor in choosing the type of transmission. |
2. | Sergey: I wanted to buy an automatic, but due to the peculiarities of the geographical area in which I live, a manual one is the only right solution. |
3. | Slavik: I’ve been familiar with mechanics for several decades now, I know the strengths and weaknesses, the machine is still a little damp. Let them improve it a little. |
4. | Vitaly: in bad weather conditions, it’s hard to find a better manual transmission. Despite the presence of a mechanical “Overdrive” button in the machine, it is not possible to fully control the engine. |
5. | Victor: I’ve been actively using the Granta for a year now, I have no complaints, the transmission works properly. I believe that it doesn’t matter what type of gearbox, the main thing is systematic maintenance and timely oil changes. |
6. | Volodya: I like the mechanical type of gearbox, it picks it up from the bottom, who knows, he will understand. If an emergency maneuver is necessary, you can always switch to a lower gear and complete overtaking. You can also do this automatically, but it will take much more time. |
7. | Vitya: for me, as a taxi driver, manual gearbox control is much more effective than automatic. In a metropolis, it is necessary to quickly respond to changes in traffic conditions; this will not work with an automatic transmission. |
Negative | |
1. | Vasily: despite the efficiency of the manual transmission, one liter less, the automatic is much more practical and functional than its predecessor. |
2. | Dmitry: Japanese “Zhatko” is an ideal solution for the domestic VAZ. The transmission is very “smart”, it understands when to shift to a higher gear, and when, on the contrary, to engage a lower one. |
3. | Gennady: after 60,000 km, the synchronizers on my mechanics began to fall off, so I contacted the service center. The workmanship is poor, it is better to buy with an automatic. |
4. | Ivan: for a 16-valve engine, the mechanics are not enough, the gear ratio is not adjusted by the gearbox. Automatic transmission is essential. |
5. | Savely: I bought a Granta with mechanics, I thought I made the right choice, but it turns out I was wrong. The transmission failed at 70,000 km. |
6. | Vladislav: except for replacing the cable control levers, nothing has changed from the VAZ 2108. For that kind of money, it’s better to buy with an automatic transmission. |
7. | Kirill: I don’t recommend the mechanical type of transmission, it’s a weak box for such a powerful engine. |
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What buyers like about the new Lada Granta 2022
First of all, it should be noted that the prices for this car are quite low, even if we consider the most expensive trim levels. Other automakers offer their competitors in this segment, but they can be more expensive in good trim levels, and their quality is far from the best. Reduced taxes on the sale of domestic cars made them more attractive, which is why many paid attention to this model. A lot of buyers say that they chose this car precisely because of its attractive price.
The second important factor is the maintainability of the car. Many buyers in the reviews note the fact that servicing the 2022 model was quite simple, parts are available, prices are reasonable, and the quality is very high. In the new product, this will also not be a problem; the domestic market will be flooded with everything necessary for quick and high-quality repairs. Also, as an advantage, many note the presence of an extensive network of official service centers, thanks to which the car can be quickly restored to its original condition.
The configuration of this model can also be considered an advantage, because many positive reviews are based precisely on the fact that the buyer has found the ideal configuration for himself. You can buy a station wagon or a sedan, you can give preference to an automatic transmission or a manual transmission. In this case, the engine will always be 1.6, but it is quite sufficient for all tasks, it is productive, economical and has good torque. And the main thing is that such an engine can be repaired very cheaply if necessary, and you can contact any nearest service center.
It’s still quite early to talk about reliability, but some buyers note this fact in their reviews. Based on the previous practice of this model, we can say that the car does not require frequent maintenance, the robot does not create problems, the engine can be repaired, and the new body does not corrode . That is why today many buyers of new items note the fact that the car is quite reliable and not problematic. This fact also proves that the manufacturer is ready to give each buyer a long-term quality guarantee.
We can also safely note the widespread opinion of buyers that the model has high ground clearance, which is an important advantage for domestic roads. This car is designed for good cross-country ability, even off public roads. The driver can easily get to the dacha, to a fishing spot, or even take part in competitions in passing medium-sized obstacles. This functionality will also be actively used in the city, where sometimes you have to roughly avoid obstacles and traffic jams.
The last positive fact of numerous reviews is that the interior of the car has been transformed and these changes have only affected it in a positive way. The bottom line is that the cabin has become more comfortable, all controls are at hand, the interior design is top-notch, and there are no crickets or extraneous plastic sounds while driving. This is an important detail, because the buyer always wants to get a comfortable ride after buying a new car, and expects that the silence and comfort of the interior will remain with him for a long time.
Lada Granta automatic or manual, which is better?
Each of the above types of transmissions certainly has its own advantages and disadvantages. Before purchasing a machine, clearly determine the type of geographic area where the machine will be used and the climatic conditions.
It has been verified that the automatic machine does not like frequent switching or start-stop modes. The solenoids wear out quickly and the torque converter clutch knocks. Since all automatic transmission parts are interconnected, prevention alone is not enough; a major overhaul is needed. It is expensive and time-consuming.
Mechanics are another matter. Despite the complaints addressed to it, the unit is quite working and functional. The final word belongs to the owner.
Cuter
Until recently, we believed that it would be naive to count on something “designer” in the most affordable segment. Steve Mattin buried this stereotype with his Vesta and Xray. Grant was painted before his arrival at AVTOVAZ, and now the eminent artist has improved the appearance of the car as best he can.
VAZ cars have also reached the budget Grants. It suits her!
VAZ cars have also reached the budget Grants. It suits her!
More modern
The Granta update is immediately noticeable when viewed from the front, but from other angles and in the interior, the results of the work done are not so obvious. There are many differences, although everything was done with little blood. For example, they didn’t spend money on a new dashboard - they took it from the discontinued Kalina with minimal modifications.
VAZ has modernized the gearbox and parking brake levers. The latter, gleaming with bare metal, needed this especially urgently.
VAZ has modernized the gearbox and parking brake levers. The latter, gleaming with bare metal, needed this especially urgently.
The instrument cluster has been updated to match the latest Lada innovations. Granta now has radial digitization and orange accents. The old-fashioned display with a green background has given way to stylish black and white. The interior lighting is LED, and the lampshade is combined with an emergency call button. They didn’t even forget about the seat upholstery - it now has a different pattern. It seems like a trifle, but against its background the pre-restyling Grant seems like an alien from the distant past.