Marking of disks and decoding of symbols, what marking means

Chrysler Chrysler Cherokee 5 x 114.3 71.5 Chrysler Le Baron Cabrio/Coupe 5 x 114.3 35 71.5 Chrysler New Yorker 5 x 114.3 35 71.5 Chrysler Saratoga 5 x 114.3 71.5 Chrysler Vision 5 x 114.3 35 71.5 Chrysler Voyager 5 x 114.3 35 71. 5 Chrysler Wrangler 5 x 114.3 71.5

Daewoo Daewoo Leganza 5 x 114.3 35…42 56.5

Daihatsu Daihatsu Terios 5 x 114.3 30…40 66.6

Dodge Dodge Avenger (nuo 1995 m) 5 x 114.3 38…45 67.0 Dodge Stealth (nuo 1991 m) 5 x 114.3 38…45 67.0

Ford Ford Probe (iki 1992 m) 5 x 114.3 35…38 59.5 Ford Probe (nuo 1992 m) 5 x 114.3 35…38 67.0 Ford Explorer 5×114.3

Honda Honda Integra Type-R 5 x 114.3 45…50 64.0 Honda NSX 5 x 114.3 70/64 Honda Legend (nuo 1994 m) 5 x 114.3 35…38 70.0 Honda Odysee 5 x 114.3 35…38 64.0 Honda CRV 5 x 114.3 40 …45 64.0 Honda Shuttle 5 x 114.3 35…38 64.0

Jeep Jeep Cherokee 5 x 114.3 35 71.5 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5 x 114.3 35 71.5

Lexus Lexus GS300 5 x 114.3 35…42 60.0 Lexus SC300 5 x 114.3 35…42 60.0 Lexus LS400 5 x 114.3 35…42 60.0 Lexus SC400 5 x 114.3 35…42 60.0

Mazda Mazda 323 2.0 V6 (nuo 1994 m) 5 x 114.3 35...42 67.0 Mazda 626 (iki 1992 m) 5 x 114.3 35...42 59.5 Mazda 626 (nuo 1992 m) 5 x 114.3 35...42 67.0 Mazda 929 5 x 114. 3 35…42 67.0 Mazda RX7 5 x 114.3 35…42 59.5 Mazda Xedos 6 5 x 114.3 35…42 67.0 Mazda Xedos 9 5 x 114.3 35…42 67.0

Mitsubishi Mitsubishi 3000 GT 5 x 114.3 67.0 Mitsubishi Eclipse 5 x 114.3 35…42 67.0 Mitsubishi Sigma 5 x 114.3 35…42 67.0 Mitsubishi Space Gear 5 x 114.3 67.0

Nissan Nissan 200SX (nuo 1994 m) 5 x 114.3 35...42 66.0 Nissan 300ZX 5 x 114.3 35...42 66.0 Nissan Cedric 5 x 114.3 35...42 66.0 Nissan Gloria 5 x 114.3 35...42 66.0 Nissan Maxima 5 x 114.3 35…42 66.0 Nissan Serena 5 x 114.3 35…42 66.0 Nissan Skyline 5 x 114.3 35…42 66.0

Subaru Subaru Streega 5 x 114.3 56.0 Subaru SVX 5 x 114.3 56.0

Toyota Toyota MR2 (nuo 1991 m) 5 x 114.3 35...38 60.0 Toyota Picnic 5 x 114.3 35...38 60.0 Toyota Previa 5 x 114.3 35...38 60.0 Toyota RAV4 5 x 114.3 35...38 60.0 Toyota Supra (nuo 1992 m) 5 x 114.3 35…38 60.0 Toyota Camry (nuo 1991 m) 5 x 114.3 35…38 60.0 Toyota Hi-Ace 5 x 114.3 18…20 67.0

Land Rover Land Rover Freelander 5 x 114 35

Volkswagen Volkswagen Taro 5 x 114.3 67.0

Bolt pattern 5*115

Cadillac Cadillac Alante (1987...1994) 5 x 115 38 70.0 Cadillac De Ville (nuo 1989 m) 5 x 115 38 70.0 Cadillac Eldorado (nuo 1989 m) 5 x 115 38 70.0 Cadillac Seville (nuo 1989 m) 5 x 115 38 70.0

Chevrolet Chevrolet Celebrity (1986...1989) 5 x 115 38 70.0 Chevrolet Lumina (1989...1993) 5 x 115 38 70.0

Moskvich 412, produced in the USSR from 1967 to 1976, was equipped with 13-inch wheels.

Wheel parameters: bolt pattern - 5x115, diameter - R13, width - J 5.5, offset -ET 30, centering hole - DIA 74.

155/80R13 165/70R13 165/80R13

One of the wheel rim parameters is the bolt pattern. Each manufacturer of foreign cars determines the value of the bolt pattern of wheel rims only for their own or standard rims, while for non-original vehicles this parameter differs by a fraction of a millimeter.

Is it important? What are fractions of millimeters? However, when installing “non-standard” rims, fractions of millimeters play an important role while driving. Remember, it is necessary that the wheel bolt pattern readings exactly match the factory dimensions of your wheels.

Fans of a sporty driving style with sharp acceleration and braking should choose wheels with a large number of thin spokes, which increases its rigidity with minimal weight. The best characteristics are provided by two-part or three-part (consisting of two/three parts) prefabricated wheels. They allow you to combine different technologies (casting and forging) in the manufacture of individual parts: the rim and the central part of the disc.

For Moskvich, alloy wheels can be selected without any problems. In this case, it is necessary to comply with some conditions - Muscovites are ideally suited for disks in which the mounting holes are located on a circle with a diameter of 115 mm (P C D), and the offset is 30 mm (ET). However, popular modern cars are not equipped with wheels of this size. The closest to these indicators are common disks with P C D equal to 114.3 mm. Japanese and Korean cars are equipped with such wheels, for example, some Mazda, Mitsubishi, Hyundai models.

The central hole of the Mazda 626 disk will have to be bored

The existing difference of 0.7 mm in the diameter of the circle where the fastening bolts are located can be neglected, since each hole is shifted relative to the center by 0.35 mm, which is compensated by the conical fit of the fastening nuts. If the wheel offset is greater - for example, 35 mm, it turns out to be recessed 5 mm into the depth of the arches, due to which the low Moskvich cutouts (at the rear) do not interfere with the normal rotation of the wheels. It is not recommended to use wider tires, since in this case the gap between the rear wheel and the spring on one side, as well as the wing on the other, will be unacceptably small. However, finding wheels less than 5.5 inches wide will not be easy, since five-stud hubs today are only equipped with heavy and powerful cars, which are not equipped with narrow wheels.

When purchasing and installing castings for a Moskvich, you must take into account that such disks, as a rule, have a large thickness in the mounting plane, so the length of the standard studs may not be enough and you will have to order extended ones from turners. In this case, the operation of fastening the disk should be treated more responsibly, strictly observing the sequence of tightening the nuts according to the star pattern. Discs with cylindrical rather than tapered holes may work without stud extensions because their special extended nuts allow the threads to be caught deep in the disc. However, their use is undesirable - problems with wheel alignment may arise.

Finally, you need to pay attention to the diameter of the hole for the hub in the disk - the DIA parameter. For original Muscovite wheels it is 74 mm, but for many alloy wheels it is less.

Due to the large thickness of the disc in the contact plane, extended mounting studs may be required

As a last resort, in order to seat the disc on the thickened part of the hub, you can chamfer the inside of the hole on the mating plane of the disc or bore the central hole on a machine.

Dimensions of wheel nuts Moskvich 412

For model 412, the wheel is attached to the hub using wheel nuts. The number of fasteners depends on the year of manufacture of the model and is presented in the table below.

General fastener dimensions:

• Number of fastening elements: -;
• Fastener size: M12x1.5;
• Mounting hole diameter (PCD): -;
• Disc offset (ET): -.

Important: the data presented above are the limits of values ​​for all modifications of the car; specific figures depend on the year of manufacture.

Rules for selecting wheel fasteners:

For cast and stamped wheels, different wheel fasteners are often used - this applies to the length of the bolts, since the thickness of different types of wheels can vary significantly.

When selecting any fastener, special attention should be paid to the thread pitch. This parameter is always indicated in the marking after the “x” sign.

Most wheel fasteners have metric fine pitch threads (M12x1.25/M12x1.5/M14x1.25/M14x1.5), which should match the threads of the studs or tapped holes in the wheel hub.

Important: the marking of the M12x1.5 mounting bolt is deciphered as follows: thread with a nominal diameter of 12 (mm), thread pitch 1.5 (mm).

Years of production: years of production of all modifications of the model: 1967-1988.

How discs are marked

Each disc has an individual marking indicating:

•number of holes for mounting to the hub;

•diameter of a conventional circle passing through the axes of these holes;

Wheel rim bolt pattern compatibility table

Let's look at an example of full marking 9JX16 Н2 5/112 ET 35 D 66.6

9 – disk width (in inches);

J – designation indicating that the disk is intended for a one-wheel drive car (wheels for all-wheel drive vehicles are designated by two letters JJ);

X – disc manufacturing method (cast);

16 – installation diameter (in inches);

H2 – marking indicating the number of annular protrusions holding the tubeless tire (2);

5/112 – number of mounting holes/diameter of the circle on which they are located (bolt pattern);

ET 35 – disc offset value (in millimeters);

D 66.6 – diameter of the central (hub) hole of the disk.

Other parameters of Moskvich 412:

Thread M14 x 1.5 means:

M14 – thread diameter 14 (mm); 1.5 – thread pitch (distance between adjacent threads).

Caution: the above data are the official figures of the manufacturer, however, please note that the information is for reference only and does not guarantee absolute accuracy.

Replacing original wheels Moskvich-2141

Many owners are thinking about replacing standard Moskvich-2141 wheels with models from other cars or completely new ones. And the reason here is not only the desire to tune your car, but also the difficulties in finding “original” parts. And in markets and stores today they offer a wide range of products, both new and used, both steel and light alloy. But you need to figure out what kind of wheels can be installed on the Moskvich-2141 so that there is no harm to traffic safety.

The manufacturer gave the following recommendations regarding wheels for Moskvich-2141 . Tire sizes are 165/80 R14, 175/70R14, 185/70R14 and 185/65R14. In this case, steel wheels must have a 5J rim with an ET offset of 45 mm. A 5.5J rim with a 42mm offset is also allowed. Alloy wheels for Moskvich-2141 must have a 5.5J rim and an offset of 37 mm or a 6J rim and an offset of 33 mm. Note that the plant also allows the installation of tires 175/65 R15, as well as 185/65R15. In this case, the wheels must be 5.5J or 6J, and the offset must be 42 mm. It is worth paying attention to one nuance. If wheels are installed on a Moskvich-2141 with a profile width of 185 mm, such a wheel may not be mounted in the “original” fastener for the “spare tire” or in the niche for it.

In addition to the parameters described above, when selecting wheels for Moskvich-2141, mounting holes are also a decisive factor. This machine has 4 mounting holes with a circumference of 108 mm. In addition, it is important that the diameter of the central hole of the wheel rim is about 1-2 mm larger than the diameter of the hub. For the AZLK-2141 car, the latter is 52 mm.

If we talk about the selection of wheels for Moskvich-2141 from foreign cars, then here you can make a whole list of models. It will include Alfa Romeo 75 7th generation, Audi 80, 90, 100 until 1991, Ford Escort, Taunus, Cortina, Scorpio after 1995, Mondeo 1996-2000, Focus 1st generation, Cougar, Fiesta 3, 5 generations, as well as 4 generations until September 2008. In addition, wheels from many models of Peugeot and Citroen, SAAB 9000 1988-1992, Kia Alegro, Porsche 924 are suitable. Naturally, when selecting wheels for Moskvich-2141 , you may encounter the problem of discrepancy between the diameters of bolt or hub holes. The first ones can be drilled out if necessary. If they are more than required, then it is better to refuse such a purchase. In the case of hub holes, if it is larger on the disk than the diameter of the hub, then this is not critical. If it is less, then in this case it is also better not to purchase such disks.

Note that many tuning enthusiasts install wheels on Moskvich-2141 with a larger diameter and with different characteristics than those recommended by the factory. The main problem in this case is that the edge of the rubber does not reach the spring cup of the shock absorber strut of the front wheels, which is the element closest to the wheel. In such cases, replacing the rack with a unit from Moskvich Ivan Kalita can help.

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and I’m not trying to prove it, I just put 4x100 r15 on Oda, on 4x98

By the way, I should have also written about the fact that it is advisable to select wheels according to the parameters recommended by the car manufacturer in order to avoid negative consequences.

Well, why can’t 4/100 be on 4/98? Of course you can screw it on! and you can even get somewhere! You’ll just destroy the hub and the disc, and if you’re very lucky, you can get killed, but not right away, but as you use it!

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There are cone springs and a cup of reduced diameter. You can also upgrade the standard racks. Instead of the cut-off “original” cup, a part from the rear shock absorber of the VAZ-2109 is welded. Springs are selected according to the size and stiffness of the foreign car. But still, it is better to limit the scope of wheel selection to the framework established by the manufacturer.

Finally, we note that when choosing wheels for Moskvich-2141, it is not recommended to experiment with offset. As it increases, the load on the hub bearings increases several times. In addition, the retracement arm changes. This can provoke completely unpredictable changes in the car's handling. Therefore, the disc offset characteristics for Moskvich-2141 should be close to the values ​​​​specified by the factory.

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In my opinion, a huge amount of material has already been written about the installation of various kinds of non-original wheels on Moskvich 412 series. However, there are often still rather contradictory information regarding which wheels can be adapted for installation on a Moskvich, and for which it is inappropriate to do this... It must be remembered that installing non-original (non-certified for it) wheels on a car is illegal, and , to be fair, really unsafe. Therefore, if you really feel itchy (as, for example, I

) install other wheels, you need to at least approach such tuning responsibly.

I had three reasons for installing non-original wheels: 1. Potentially better characteristics of larger wheels (both in width and diameter) in terms of smoothness and directional stability. 2. Larger wheel diameter, which affects the speed characteristics of the car. 3. Appearance.

The last two motives are purely subjective and personally important to me. The choice initially settled on 14-inch wheels. I initially did not seriously consider the options for 15-inch wheels, because I think that this is too large a size for use on a Moskvich.

So, as you know, standard wheels have the following parameters: landing diameter - 13 inches rim flange width - 5 inches rim shape code - J number of studs x diameter on which they are located - 5 x 115mm offset - 30mm hub hole diameter - 74mm

The task, therefore, was to find the wheels that were closest in parameters, differing only in the landing diameter - 14 inches. The wheel options for Mercedes and BMW cars (including the ''15'' ones) are no longer available, since they have stud diameters of 112 and 120 mm, respectively (at least for the common models known to me). You cannot install such wheels on Moskvich. A variant of wheels from Mazda 626, Xedox 6, Toyota HiAce, Toyota Picnic, etc. has appeared. One of the variants of wheel rims used on these cars has the following parameters:

landing diameter - 14 inches rim flange width - 6 inches rim shape code - J number of studs x diameter on which they are located - 5 x 114.3mm offset - 38mm hub hole diameter - 67mm

There are both stamped steel and light alloy wheels. In addition, they are common enough that they can be easily found for sale. The diameter of the pins is close enough to the original one (the offset of the pins relative to the holes is 0.35mm) so that the difference can be neglected. However, when tightening the nuts, you need to pay attention to the alignment of the wheel. It turned out that the offset of the new wheels was too large, so that the front wheels hit the inside of the upper control arm, and the rear wheels hit the inside of the wheel arch during turns and when the car rolls. Therefore, it turned out to be necessary to order new studs extended by 15 mm (all 20 pieces), and to make spacers for the wheels that increase the track.

Izh-2126 "Oda"

Initially, the car was called “Orbita”, but the name “Orbita” was almost never indicated, since the “Orbit” trademark was already registered abroad (that was the name of the ItalDesign concept car). On the back door of the car until 2000 there was an original “IZH2126” nameplate, replaced by “ODA” and “1.6c” stickers (there were also 1.7 and 1.8, depending on the engine).

The instrument panel was borrowed from the 41st Moskvich, and the headlights and steering wheel were from the “eight” (since 2000, the steering wheel from the “ten” was installed) - unification of spare parts with other domestic cars simplified operation, but gave the “Izh” the appearance of a kind of “hodgepodge” ", which was not good for the image. In addition, the large, angular headlights of the VAZ-2108 mediocrely fit into the front end of the Izha, which was originally designed for low round headlights.

The clutch drive is hydraulic. The front suspension is MacPherson strut, the rear suspension is almost similar to the Zhiguli.

Large-scale "Oda" was produced with three types of engines - VAZ-2106 1.6l, UZAM-3317 1.7l and UZAM-3313 1.8l. Small-scale or experimental front- and all-wheel drive versions of the car with various engines were also produced (VAZ-21084, 2106, 21213, 2130, 21214, Hyundai G4GM of the Beta family, volume 1.8 liters, two-liter injection UZAM-248i). Small-scale modifications of cars were carried out by Izhevsk. Also, the plant produced an all-wheel drive version 2126-060 with a VAZ-21213 engine, put on the conveyor according to the technical documentation of Norma-Auto with minor design changes.

In 2003, the car received an original instrument panel.

In 2004, the instrument cluster was modernized and received one (two) liquid crystal displays. The upholstery was also updated - it became two-tone: gray bottom, black top. External restyling was being prepared, which, according to available information, was supposed to bring new bumpers to match the body color, sidewall moldings, and narrow headlights borrowed from VAZs of the “thirteenth” family.

On July 1, 2005, the entire Izh-2126 family was discontinued.

Safety

When developing the Izh-2126 Oda, it went through a full cycle of tests, including crash tests according to the standards that were in force at the time it was put into production, but it was not ready for the emergence of new standards for offset (R94) and lateral (R95) impacts. As a result of the crash test conducted by Autoreview (frontal impact according to EuroNCAP standards), the car received 2 points out of 16. The plant designers did a lot of work to change the design and strengthen the body, including using the test results of Autoreview, and achieved a positive result (tests were carried out at AvtoVAZ), but these changes did not go into series, due to the car being discontinued from production.

Wheel size for AZLK 2141 Svyatogor

You need to move the wheels outward at least 10-12mm to avoid all problems. For the spacers I used 4mm thick aluminum sheets. There were three spacers for each wheel. The new wheel hub holes are too small to fit onto the front suspension hubs. I had to expand them in diameter by approximately 7-8mm with a grinder - to the required 75mm. After all these alterations, you can drive on new wheels, in my opinion, quite safely. By the way, in the photo in the front I have wheels from a Toyota Picnic, and in the back from a Mazda 626. They are very similar in appearance, but slightly different (the first have 14 slots in the disk, the second have 15). This is by the way.

I used the common tire size 185/65R14. At the same time, the rolling diameter increased by approximately 4% compared to 175/70R13 tires; accordingly, the vehicle speed at a given engine speed increased by the same amount, and accordingly, the acceleration dynamics in a given gear worsened. Subjectively, the ride quality and directional stability have improved significantly. I did not control fuel consumption, but other things being equal (speed, tire pressure, temperature, tread pattern, etc.) it can increase slightly due to an increase in tread width. In my opinion, there are no other factors influencing consumption with new wheels. Please write with suggestions and criticism to [email protected]

Moskvich Ivan Kalita, Duet coupe

Probably the strangest model of the late 90s is the Duet coupe, which is a two-seater version of the Kalita. A budget option was also created based on the “Prince Vladimir” model. Of course, there was no demand for this “miracle”. Probably the strangest model of the late 90s is the Duet coupe, which is a two-seater version of the Kalita. A budget option was also created based on the “Prince Vladimir” model. Of course, there was no demand for this “miracle”.

In February 1996, the conveyor was stopped. The following year, the “forty-one” was modernized - the design of the front end changed. The updated car received the name “Svyatogor”. Some of the cars were equipped with a two-liter 113-horsepower Renault F3R engine, familiar from the Renault Laguna. In addition to the engine, Svyatogor acquired an imported clutch and brake booster. But again external factors intervened. The 1998 default hit the plant hard: the purchase of imported components led to huge losses. The agony of the 41st continued.

And even in these conditions, the plant could have a future. Indeed, in the second half of the nineties, Moskvich received the support of the Moscow government. But the plant management failed to properly manage the funds received. Instead of bringing the quality of the 41st to the required level, all efforts were thrown into the appearance of a whole army of “freaks”: “Yuri Dolgoruky”, “Prince Vladimir” and the tacky “Ivan Kalita”, which cost fabulous money. And also a modification of the Duet with a coupe body. But there was no demand. Even from the Moscow government.

The result is logical - production has been steadily declining and by 2001 it had dropped to 800 cars per year. On March 4, 2002, the conveyor was stopped and the power supply to the plant was cut off. No more cars under the Moskvich brand came off the Moscow assembly line. It's a shame, because initially the 41st Moskvich was a very good car. He aimed at an empty niche between the Volga and Samara. It was necessary to establish work with suppliers, improving quality, and bring new engine production to fruition. However, history decreed otherwise, and today Dusters and Captures are assembled on the territory of the former Moskvich. And Moskvich himself joined the list of brands that have sunk into oblivion.

Moskvich-2141: Moscow Simka

Selection of rims for Moskvich 2141

However, popular modern cars are not equipped with wheels of this size. The closest to these indicators are common disks with a PCD of 114.3 mm. Japanese and Korean cars are equipped with such wheels, for example, some Mazda, Mitsubishi, Hyundai models.

The existing difference of 0.7 mm in the diameter of the circle where the fastening bolts are located can be neglected, since each hole is shifted relative to the center by 0.35 mm, which is compensated by the conical fit of the fastening nuts. If the wheel offset is greater - for example, 35 mm, it turns out to be recessed 5 mm into the “depth” of the arches, due to which the low “Moskvich” cutouts (at the rear) do not interfere with the normal rotation of the wheels. It is not recommended to use wider tires, since in this case the gap between the rear wheel and the spring on one side, and the wing on the other, will be unacceptably small. However, finding wheels less than 5.5 inches wide will not be easy, since five-stud hubs today are only equipped with heavy and powerful cars, which are not equipped with narrow wheels.

When purchasing and installing “castings” on “Moskvich” models 412 and 2140, you should take into account that such disks, as a rule, have a large thickness in the mounting plane, so the length of the standard studs may not be enough and you will have to order extended ones from turners. In this case, the operation of fastening the disk should be treated more responsibly, strictly observing the sequence of tightening the nuts according to the “star” pattern. Discs with cylindrical rather than tapered holes may work without stud extensions because their special extended nuts allow them to "grab" the threads deep into the disc. However, their use in this case is undesirable - problems with wheel alignment may arise.

Finally, you need to pay attention to the diameter of the hole for the hub in the disk - the DIA parameter. For “native” Moskvich wheels it is 74 mm, and for many alloy wheels it is less.

As a last resort, in order to seat the disc on the thickened part of the hub, you can chamfer the inside of the hole on the mating plane of the disc or bore the central hole on a machine.

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One of the wheel rim parameters is the bolt pattern. Each manufacturer of foreign cars determines the value of the bolt pattern of wheel rims only for their own or standard rims, while for non-original vehicles this parameter differs by a fraction of a millimeter.

Is it important? What are fractions of millimeters? However, when installing “non-standard” rims, fractions of millimeters play an important role while driving. Remember, it is necessary that the wheel bolt pattern readings exactly match the factory dimensions of your wheels.

How to determine bolt pattern

Each make and model of car has individual bolt pattern parameters. There are special tables for this, based on which you can select disks.

If it is not possible to use tables, or if your car is not included in them, you can determine the bolt pattern yourself. To do this, we count the number of holes for mounting the disk. The first parameter is there. Determining the diameter of the circle on which the holes are located is a little more difficult.

For disks with 3 holes, measure the distance between the walls of adjacent holes and multiply it by 1.155. The result obtained will be the desired diameter.

For disks with four-point mounting, measure the gap between the walls of opposite holes and multiply it by 1.414.

For five-bolt wheels, measure the distance between the two farthest holes through one, and multiply by 1.701.

What kind of bolt pattern for Moskvich 2141

for Moskvich 2141 Svyatogor, the simplest, and to fit the set of tires I have 175/70 r14 I looked on the internet - all the disks there have some 4 parameters: well, diameter (14) and number of holes * width (4 * 108 - for me ) - I kind of understood that. And what about the other 5.5-6.5J and et33-47 (all kinds in general). What does this mean and which ones will never suit me? Or maybe just come to the market/shop and say give me the simplest wheels for such and such a car with such and such tires? In this case, where is it better to go? and approximately how much will it cost?

For cars of the 2141/2142 families, the plant allows the installation of tires of dimensions 165/80R14, 175/70R14, 185/70R14 and 185/65R14 on steel wheels with a 5J rim, with an offset (ET) of 45 mm, or 5.5J with an offset of 42 mm, as well as light alloys with a rim 5.5J, with an offset of 37 mm or 6J with an offset of 33 mm. At the same time, the plant draws the attention of consumers that tires with a profile width of 185 mm may not fit in the standard niche or hanging spare wheel holder of the 2141 car. In addition, it is allowed to install tires of dimensions 175/65R15 and 185/65R15 on wheels with a rim of 5.5J or 6J, with a 42 mm offset for both.

Discs with a different rim or offset touch the arches or come out of them, so these parameters should be strictly adhered to

On Auto.ru all the parameters are written down, with pictures of what, where and why.

Thank you btw, in the first half of the day auto.ru for some reason did not work for me.

Discs with a different rim or offset touch the arches or come out of them, so these parameters should be strictly adhered to

Ok, I understand that, but will tires 177/70 r14 fit on any wheels with the recommended parameters?

/70 r14 of course, I got confused. Well, I already have both summer and winter tires - they just said in the spring that the wheels are crappy, they balance very poorly because of this - so I want to buy new ones.

The camp used to sell stampings for 2141, and if you need casting, then 175/70R14, with a 5J rim, with an offset (ET) of 45 mm, or 5.5J with an offset of 42 mm, that’s all. less than 175/70 don’t take 175/65 on this car they look like they come from a baby stroller.

They just said in the spring that the wheels are crappy, it balances very poorly because of this - so I want to buy new ones.

Balancing is usually disrupted due to bad tires, not the disk

The essence is the same, the wheel is poorly balanced.

When I changed my shoes, I noticed that a large amount of weight was placed on one wheel. We turned the tire over onto the rim and hung a very small weight. everything became normal. conclusion - the disc could not be deformed, but the rubber could.

The conclusion is that in the first case, the shortcomings of the tire and disk were added up, and in the second they were subtracted. Are your tires with a directional pattern by any chance? If yes, then it cannot be turned over.

no, without direction. about flips with a directional pattern - an obvious fact

Well, if you consider that the disc is almost new and the previous tires were without any gaps, then the problem is mainly in the tires

If the disc were perfect, then the number of weights should not change when the tires turn.

Hello again to those who read my blog. Thank you!

After a long time, I assembled the engine and installed it, at the same time the front struts were being made. Let me remind you: now the original struts 2141 are installed, the spring 2141 (cut down into 1 turn), the VAZ Kalina support, the cut off upper spring cup, then comes the spring cup 2141, the VAZ Kalina cartridges (I don’t remember the brand) are generally hard. Where the hub fits, a bushing is inserted under the front VAZ bearing, and the VAZ hub itself is installed (everything from the nine that I bought for disassembly), then comes the VAZ brake disc, VAZ calipers are installed (with modifications to the mounts on the rack), otherwise it won’t fit in its original place . That seems to be all with the front wheels.

But the rear wheels have not been redesigned since then. There are some wheels in front, others in the back. There are no issues with tires, but carrying 2 spare tires with you is not an option. Although I don’t drive it, because the sub is on the floor of the trunk)))

I had a beam from a 9 lying around at home, I removed the hubs from it along with the bearing, then I bought drums from Izh 2126, pads from 412 Muscovite, and I already have brake cylinders from 2109.

What had to be done to install this: 1) Grind a pin to the size of the VAZ wheel bearing, and make a 5 mm washer before putting the hub in place. (so that the hub rotates freely and the drum does not touch the rear shield)

2) After the axle is ready, you need to sharpen the hub, namely, remove the shoulder of the seat. (do it evenly so that the drum sits completely on the hub)

3) Have the drums turned over to another specialist to machine the inner diameter of the hub seat. In the photo I noted what and how.

4) What we do next: we take a shield, an angle grinder, glasses so that nothing accidentally gets into your eyes, and we saw off the edge in a circle so that it does not touch the drum when putting it in place. We get an even shield.

Now everything is ready, you can put everything back in place. Don’t forget to lubricate the bolts that hold the axle with graphite grease, in case you need to do a camber))) Next is just a photo. Let's watch and comment.

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The interior design is quite modern for 1990s. However, by the 2000s it was noticeably outdated. Thus, the car has a simple three-spoke steering wheel and a dial instrument panel. Note that there was very little space in the cabin. In order to somehow expand the volume, engineers had to move the engine and rear gearbox in the IZH-2126 ODA to the right side. Thus, the space in the pedal assembly has increased and overall ergonomics have improved.

What are the downsides to the interior of this car? Owner reviews note the poor quality of sound insulation. There is also quite hard plastic inside and shapeless seats. You get tired quickly in this car, the owners note. On the other hand, it is worth understanding that IL “ODA” is, in fact, a development of the 1980s.

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Quote from Alexey Dzhigurda’s answers to ZR magazine (with comments):

Question: What sizes of wheels and tires are allowed to be installed on AZLK vehicles?

Answer: For cars of the 2141/2142 families, the plant allows the installation of tires of dimensions 165/80R14, 175/70R14, 185/70R14 and 185/65R14 on steel wheels with a 5J rim, with an offset (ET) of 45 mm, or 5.5J with an offset of 42 mm, as well as light alloys with a rim 5.5J, with an offset of 37 mm or 6J with an offset of 33 mm. At the same time, the plant draws the attention of consumers that tires with a profile width of 185 mm may not fit in the standard niche or hanging spare wheel holder of the 2141 car. In addition, it is allowed to install tires of dimensions 175/65R15 and 185/65R15 on wheels with a rim of 5.5J or 6J, with a 42 mm offset for both.

Published in issue 11, 2001.

Comment: The answer lists only the applicable and recommended tire and wheel sizes from among those approved. Not mentioned here are tires of size 195/60R15 (additionally certified at the request of the plant management to ensure the possibility of completing vehicles on special orders), the use of which, in principle, is not technically justified and is associated with a number of additional requirements for the vehicle (no lockers and strict compliance with the recommended wheel offset). On the other hand, the use of 185/65R14 tires and alloy wheels with an offset of 33 mm, although approved by the factory, is not recommended: first, due to a noticeable distortion of the speedometer readings and (critical for cars with a Renault engine) reduction in ground clearance, second — due to the reduction to zero of the negative rolling arm of the steered wheels and non-optimal loading of the wheel bearings, which negatively affects their service life. The plant envisions a comprehensive transition to 15-inch wheels, along with new brakes and hub assemblies with a different socket from the existing one. The plant did not select 15″ wheels that are interchangeable with the existing 14″ wheels (with 4x108 socket) and, accordingly, cannot give specific recommendations on where to get such wheels. When independently selecting wheels from among imported analogues, it should be taken into account that for tires of all sizes the recommended wheel offset is 42 mm. When using light alloy wheels, due to the possibility of their thicker and wider rim interfering with suspension elements, it is allowed to reduce the offset to the mentioned values ​​(with the caveat that an offset of less than 37 mm can significantly reduce the service life of wheel bearings). When installing wheels with an offset beyond the range of 33-45 mm, factory specialists do not guarantee that the wheel assembly will not cling to chassis elements and will fit into the body arch in the event of suspension breakdowns, nor do they guarantee that the vehicle will have acceptable handling. It should be noted that with all currently recommended tire sizes, the possibility of using snow chains is not guaranteed (during the development of the car, this was provided only for the then basic tires of size 155/80R14 on a basic steel wheel with a rim width of 5 inches and an offset of 45 mm).

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What wheels should I put on the Moskvich? I think that on the eve of real Spring, this question is very pressing for many. And so, what wheels were installed on the third series (M 408-412-2140 and their modifications):

“Until 1970, on the M-408 and M-412 with a sedan body, the same 4J-13 wheels were installed for tubed and tubeless tires, and on station wagons and vans, 4 1/2 J-13 wheels with a wider, but also symmetrical profile rim. The latter have been installed on all 408-412s and their modifications since 1970. Wheel markings are marked on the inner surface of the rim and consist of the designation of the rim size, manufacturer, month and year of manufacture (for example, 4 1/2 J-13 GAZ-1-64). Wheels of this size with a symmetrical rim were manufactured for Moskvich cars at the Gorky Automobile Plant. There are four ventilation windows on the disk of such a wheel. Since 1973, all Moskvich cars began to be equipped with wheels with an asymmetrical rim profile and a modified disk shape, having six oblong windows near the outer diameter. The 4 1/2 J-13 wheels with an asymmetrical rim were manufactured by the Volzhsky Automobile Plant, and “VAZ” is stamped on their rims, and oval ventilation windows are punched in the disks. Similar wheels, but with size 5J-13, were produced by GAZ in 1980 and 1981. 4 1/2 J-13 wheels with symmetrical and asymmetrical rims are interchangeable. Wheels with symmetrical rims cannot be installed on models M-2138 and 2140, and their modifications, where disc brakes are installed on the front axle. On the M-408, until November 1965, tube tires of size 6.00-13 were installed, and from November 1965 to 1970, tubeless tires of the same size were installed, and only a small number of cars were produced with tube tires. Both types of tires had the same model designation - M-107, but one was marked “tubeless”. Naturally, if the seal is lost, a tube can be inserted into a tubeless tire and it will serve properly until it wears out completely. On modifications of the 408 with a station wagon body (M-426) and with a van body (M-433), tube and tubeless tires of size 6.40-13 (M-100) were installed. Until 1970, the M-412 was equipped with 6.00-13 tires, but with additional markings - “Moskvich-412”, painted in yellow paint. The use of M-107 tires without this additional marking on the 412 was not recommended. Since 1970, low-profile tube tires measuring 6.45-13 of the M-130A model (or the M-119A model, differing only in the pattern) were installed on the M-408 and M-412 tread), and for station wagons (models 426 and 427) and vans (models 433 and 434) - tube tires size 6.40-13 model M-100. On one vehicle it is allowed to use tires of sizes 6.00-13 and 6.45-13, but only when installing a pair of identical tires on the same axle. Until the beginning of 1978, M-2138 and M-2140 were equipped with M-130A tires. From the beginning of 1978 they were replaced by the M-145 model. The same cars use radial tires - 165R13 model IYA-170 and radial tires with metal cord model MI-166. All tire models for “Muscovites” were tube-type and were equipped with a unified tube 6.45-6.95-13. On M-408, M-412, M-2138 and M-2140, which have wheels with rims 4 1/2 J-13 and 5J-13, you can install 6.40-13 (M-100) tires intended for station wagons and vans. The speedometer readings will be 7-8% lower than the actual speed and distance traveled. Heavier 6.40-13 tires compared to those provided for later models of Moskvich cars can slightly reduce the service life of the front suspension and steering joints, as well as increase fuel consumption. The ground clearance will increase by approximately 15 mm due to the larger outer diameter of the tires 6.40-13 (641.5 mm).” Of course, finding original tires is very difficult now. But, even if you can find one, is it possible to ride it comfortably and safely? Definitely no! Wheels, first of all! Therefore, first of all, at the beginning of this season, I plan to install new tires. Like this one: Dunlop Eco EC201

Why Dunlop? Historically, at all major international competitions (London-Sydney (68), London-Mexico City (70), Tour of Europe (73), Muscovites performed on tires of this particular brand, and even the legendary M130-PROSTOR "has also Dunlop roots. Now my Moskvich has the following tires: YaShZ Ya-427 185/75 R13. Such tires are used for VAZ VIS vans and it is quite possible for Moskvich station wagons, but for sedans it is a bit heavy.

Well then try R-13.5?

or R-13.1 - ALSO SUITABLE FROM A BULBULATOR. HA HA HA HA

In principle, you can buy 17570 R13 for the M-412. There is a choice among both imported and Russian tires. Choose by price and quality. Better yet, give your father a gift:

In principle, you can buy 17570 R13 for the M-412. There is a choice among both imported and Russian tires. Choose by price and quality. Better yet, give your father a gift:

= Alloy wheels from '87 Toyota Crown =

Alloy wheels from an '87 Toyota Crown. Size 6J14, offset 25, considering the width of the rim and the tolerance for offset, it turns out very well. Now the main thing: the distance between the studs is 114.3.

But the main thing is to use original Toyota wheel nuts when installing on a car. Their landing cone is slightly smaller in diameter than on the Moskvich - the wheel is perfectly centered and securely fastened, five years of operating experience confirms this. I never had to tighten the wheels outside of the regular schedule.

The tires used are 175/65, also an acceptable width for a 6J14 wheel. The wheels do not touch the body and suspension parts in any position and load.

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Wheel size for classic Moskvich 5x115-40 5 bolts, radius 115 mm, offset 40 mm.

IMHO, (I have an opinion you can’t argue with) Casting is a double-edged sword.

if, when flying into a hole, the stamped disk takes the blow and becomes dented (new 450-500r), then the durable cast disk will transfer the entire force of the impact to the suspension.

Balls and levers can “fly” and the geometry of the body can “go”.

I would not recommend alloy wheels in the Russian Federation. Only stamped ones.

I am against the use of disks not recommended by the factory, because... this affects: 1. Security. 2. On handling (increased effort on the steering wheel) 3. On the life of suspension and chassis elements: balls, bearings, steering joints, etc.

Therefore, I recommend the factory sizes.

Regarding alloy wheels, let me remind you that if you hit a hole/pothole, the stamped wheel will bend, softening the impact and not transferring it to the suspension and body elements.

It is cheaper to buy a new disk than to edit the body geometry or change suspension elements.

For small deformations, the stamped disc can be straightened with a hammer.

A cast disc is more durable and will not bend, but will transfer the shock to the suspension and body.

If you want to give it a beautiful look, use plastic decorative caps. There are a lot of them in stores now.

On bad roads, they are additionally insured by tying them with clamps or thin wire to the wheel rim so that they do not fly away.

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Wheel installation parameters, recommended tire size

HELP (table of wheel fit sizes and tire parameters)

You can find out the installation parameters of wheels (fitting dimensions, distance between holes, hub diameter, etc.) for AZLK cars, as well as the recommended tire size.

Wheels Tires 2140.412 155/80R13 n.d. 165/70R13 165/80R13

Basic drive functions

Wheel rims on a passenger car perform a number of important tasks:

· rubber seal around the perimeter;

· ensuring a rigid structure under the total weight of the vehicle;

· transmission of torque to the wheel.

Based on these functions, the car enthusiast can formulate requirements for the disks, as well as their technical characteristics. Any wheeled product must be balanced in size, durable and safe. Only after this can you proceed to drilling wheels on VAZ cars.