How to install a thermostat from Granta on Kalina

Good day everyone, friends! Yesterday I made a blog entry as a starter, by the way, here it is. Probably everyone already knows how much I struggle with the stove, so that the stove makes it hot, and not like mine, it barely warms. I thought for a long time and decided whether to put it in or not. But then the first cold weather, the stove began to blow poorly and it completely pissed me off. I ordered the parts as usual from Vovka44k and, as always, many thanks to him. And I ordered exactly: Thermostat from Behr. Thermostat gasket. Spring (self-clamping) clamps. and 2 pipes from the grant, one lower and another pipe from the supply pipe to the expansion barrel. And in the store I bought: 2 thermostat mounting studs. 2 nuts that are self-locking. Viburnum stove pipes. Hairpin driver. (photo of this goodness is attached)

Having read a lot of posts about switching to a Grantothermos, I realized that I needed to buy a tee in order to cut it into the Grantothermos pipe (which goes from the radiator to the supply pipe) and the outlet from the tee goes to the RB. I bought it from GAZ (I don’t remember the exact brand) Here it is in the photo

Having calmed down, we wait for all the good things to happen. At one point, having stopped by to pick up the parts, when I arrived home I realized that the tee would not fit. Why? Because the diameter of large holes will not fit into the pipe. More precisely, I will insert one side, but the other, not at all. Having measured the diameter, I inform Vovka that that tee does not fit. We need something like this 351635, saying that he will look now and roughly select it. Here comes the treasured SMS from him that there is such a tee, exactly in these sizes, but the problem is that the wait is about 10 days. Okay, there is no choice, we wait. I decided to drive around the city and find such a pipe.

And now I can say for sure that in our city EXACTLY SUCH a tee is not available. This is a tee from a Volga, which has a Chrysler engine. There is something like this, only it is longer and costs 232 rubles, but this is not the same one. You need it from the Volga, which has a rat engine. We are sadly waiting for this tee to arrive. Here again is the treasured SMS that the tee has arrived, picked it up on Monday, tried it on according to the size of the pipe, made sure that everything fits almost immediately, flew to the garage and switches to the Grant SOD.

Lada Kalina thermostat from grants

The maximum coolant temperature of Lada Kalina FL and Lada Granta cars after 1.5-2 years of operation is 78-80 ° C. It is slightly lower than that achieved in previous AvtoVAZ models.
Therefore, some drivers consider this temperature regime of engine operation to be “non-optimal”. This, in their opinion, leads to increased fuel consumption and rapid wear of internal combustion engine parts. But plant specialists are not inclined to connect these indicators with each other, since no direct relationship between them has been noticed. The fact is that the Lada Granta-2190 has a more efficient single-circuit engine cooling system, therefore the coolant temperature is lower while maintaining other characteristics of the car. This modernization made it possible, for example, to increase the ignition timing, and therefore save some fuel. The inertia of the thermostat has also decreased. However, if you are not satisfied with the climate inside your car in winter, you should try upgrading the standard thermostat.

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Adjusting the new thermostat

Conclusion

The cooling system on the Lada Grant is implemented an order of magnitude higher than previous analogues. Direct connection of the stove heater radiator made it possible to achieve maximum heat transfer.

In older versions, the connection was implemented in parallel, which led to heat leakage.

Provided you follow the manufacturer's recommendations and take good care of the vehicle, the service life exceeds 80,000 km.

Adjusting the stroke of the thermoelement

Trimming the heel of the thermoelement rod allows you to increase the temperature of the coolant to 85-90° C. We shorten the rod sequentially, 1 mm at a time. This should be done carefully, as its metal is quite soft. Each time after trimming, you need to install a thermostat in the car and monitor the temperature of the fluid while driving. If it does not satisfy you, the rod is shortened by another 1 mm. And so on until the temperature in the cooling system reaches 90-92° C, and the air in the cabin warms up to the required temperatures.

Thermostat functions and signs of malfunctions

The thermostat is one of the main components of the cooling system of any car; it is responsible for its optimal temperature conditions and preventing the engine from overheating.

A working thermostat can significantly reduce the time required to warm up the engine in winter.

The operation of the designated unit of the machine’s cooling system is carried out using 2 automatic valves. The valves are opened using a temperature-sensitive element, which, when the temperature in the system exceeds the normal temperature, begins to melt. The movement of cooling water in the system can be in a large or small circle. When the car engine quickly warms up, the large circle is blocked and the coolant flows through the small circle. When the system temperature reaches 85°C, the valve partially opens and the liquid begins to move in a large circle. Its full opening occurs at a temperature of 100°C. When the cooling water temperature drops, the valves close.

Changing the thermal insert

You can replace the entire thermal insert. Wahler inserts are ideal for the standard Grant thermostat: 3017.87 D (at 87° C) and 3091.92 B (at 90° C). The insert changes along with the spring. This modernization is carried out using thermostats manufactured by BEHR (which is equipped with the new BAZ-2190 car). There is no need to make any modifications or fit new parts. The BEHR thermostat is dismountable, and the Wahler “thermos” will have to be cut with a hacksaw in order to remove the thermocouple.

Alternatively, you can use a Daewoo Nexia, Renault Logan or Vernet 4898.92 part as a “donor”, ​​but the diameter of the latter’s thermoelement is slightly larger than necessary and requires adjustment. For Luzar models such a replacement is not possible.

Some car enthusiasts who have made this modification claim that fuel consumption, although slightly, has decreased.

Throttle valve heating

Another modification of the “thermos” on the VAZ-2190 is the installation of a heating circuit for the throttle assembly. This is how some car enthusiasts insure themselves against freezing of the throttle valve. To do this, an additional threaded hole is made in the cover of the part, where a fitting is welded through a copper washer to drain the heated liquid. The studs for attaching the “thermos” will also have to be enlarged.

In the end, I would like to note that the engine temperature also depends on the brand of antifreeze used and the viscosity-temperature properties of the oil. Low temperatures in the cabin may be caused by problems in various vehicle systems.

In the engine cooling system in a Lada Kalina car with an engine of 8 valves, as well as 16 valves, the thermostat plays a significant role, because it is a regulating link, thanks to which the operating temperature necessary for the normal implementation of the combustion process is maintained in the circuit. The main signs of failure of this part are:

• unit overheating;
• inability of the motor to reach its operating temperature.

Let's look at how to replace such an important component as a thermostat using the example of a Lada Kalina 8-valve engine; similar work is performed on a 16-valve engine. Doing this work yourself will allow you to gain enviable experience and save a lot of money.

How can you modify the heater?

The new models Lada Kalina 2 and Lada Granta use a cooling system operating scheme with parallel connection of the heater radiator. Because of this, the operating temperature is reduced to 85 degrees, which is slightly lower than on previous models of the VAZ family. Many car owners seriously believe that this temperature cannot be normal - there is increased fuel consumption, as well as a decrease in the service life of moving engine parts due to premature wear. But according to experts, there is no connection between the reduced operating temperature and engine life.

The cooling system of the Lada Kalina works more efficiently thanks to a single-circuit design. Such a modernization only benefited the engine; it made it possible to change the ignition timing, resulting in fuel savings. The inertia of the thermostat is also reduced. The downside was the mediocre heating of the cabin at sub-zero temperatures. The way out of the situation is to independently modify the thermostat. Modification involves two main methods:

• shorten the rod of the solid-state temperature-sensitive element;
• replace the thermocouple.

For cars with a cable gas pedal, a heated throttle assembly from the cooling system is used. In this case, an additional circulation circle is added.

Adjusting the thermocouple rod

Shortening the end of the thermosensitive element rod will allow you to adjust the operating temperature to 90-95 degrees. Trimming is carried out sequentially in increments of no more than one millimeter. The metal is soft, so the procedure must be carried out carefully. It is advisable to reinstall the thermostat after each millimeter cut and check how much the operating temperature rises while driving.

Features of replacing the thermostat on Kalina

How to replace a thermostat? To successfully implement the indicated procedure, the owner will need to adhere to the steps below.

1. First, disconnect the connector of the sensor connected to the intake air tract filter element unit.
2. To ensure better convenience, we recommend that you completely remove the air filter housing from the engine compartment. It is held in place by three fastening points, 2 of which are based on elastic bands, and the third is located in the battery area.
3. Before draining the antifreeze from the cooling circuit, we determine how to carry out this manipulation. Here we highlight two of the most convenient methods.
4. The first method is a procedure that allows you to perform a drain using a conventional air compressor used to inflate tires. This option eliminates the need for a pit or lift, and the work itself can be done in any suitable location. Now you know how to change it, but let’s add that the undeniable advantage of this method is that there is no need to remove the pipes and unscrew the plugs located on the engine block and radiator.
5. Before the procedure, we stock up on an empty container, the capacity of which is equivalent to 4-6 liters of liquid, as well as directly on the compressor with the device.
6. Open the cap on the expansion tank, from which we also remove a small diameter hose. We seal the “bare” tank fitting with adhesive tape.
7. We place this hose in a pre-prepared container and hold it securely inside the container.
8. The hose leading from the discharge pipe of the compressor unit is inserted into the hole in the expansion tank (sealed).
9. By briefly turning on the compressor, we force compressed air to penetrate into the system. Air displaces liquid from the circuit, and it flows into the container.
10. We carry out the procedure until the antifreeze is completely removed from the LADA Kalina system.
11. The second common method is to drain through open plugs on the radiator and engine block.
12. For this purpose, we also prepare a suitable container and, using the indicated manipulations, completely drain the liquid. Don't forget to screw the plugs back in.
13. Now, using a convenient screwdriver, we loosen the fasteners of all pipes suitable for the thermostat and then remove them.
14. To dismantle the thermostat itself, we arm ourselves with a hex key, size “5”, and unscrew the 3 screws.
15. If, after unscrewing, the unit does not “want” to be disconnected from the lines, then using the same screwdriver, we loosen it, running the tip between the adjacent surfaces.
16. We clean the mating sections of the main pipes with the LADA Kalina thermostat from scale formations and at the same time replace the sealing gaskets.
17. We install the new product in its original place, tightening the bolts securely.
18. After this, we connect all the dismantled pipes to their original places, not forgetting to tighten the fastening clamps.
19. We check the reliability of the screwed plugs and fill the system with antifreeze. We do this through the neck in the expansion tank of LADA Kalina.
20. In some cases, it will be convenient to replace the thermostat along the way if its service life suggests this action or is approaching such a need.
21. Upon completion of filling, install the housing with the air filter and connect the previously disconnected sensor. Now you know how to change the thermostat in your car, so replacing the thermostat will not be too difficult for you.

Instructions for replacing the unit

Before changing the thermostat on Kalina, you need to carry out preliminary work, including purchasing a new device and selecting the necessary tools. For the upcoming work you will need:

• thermostat Lada Kalina;
• empty 5 liter canister;
• Screwdriver Set;
• silicone sealant;
• socket wrenches for 8, 12 and 13.

Now you can start doing the main work, having first installed the machine on the overpass. A complete replacement of the thermostat consists of a sequence of simple steps:

1. The coolant
   is drained into the prepared canister.
2. Remove the air filter by unscrewing the top bolts and nut, removing the connector, valve, and air hose from the housing, having first loosened the clamp.
3. 4 hoses are released; to do this, use an 8 socket wrench and a set of screwdrivers to release the clamps.
4. Unscrew the nut and stud using socket wrenches 12 and 13 and a screwdriver, remove the ground wire and the thermostat itself.
5. The seat for the new thermostat is being prepared: dust, dirt, and old materials are removed.
6. A thin layer of silicone sealant is applied to the seat, which is left for 10 minutes to crystallize.
7. A new thermostat is installed in the prepared place, and do not forget to replace the temperature sensor from the old device.
8. All steps to secure the new thermostat are performed in the reverse order: the ground wire is screwed in, 4 hoses are connected and coolant is poured into the system, do not allow air pockets to occur.
9. The correct installation of the device is inspected with the engine running; if necessary, the clamps are tightened to prevent leaks.

After replacing the thermostat on the Lada, you should carry out a control check.

When driving the car, monitor the current temperature level of the cooling system .

Correct installation of a new thermostat

should completely eliminate all signs of malfunction of the vehicle’s cooling system.

The material below was prepared by one of the blog readers, who, of course, is the owner of a Lada Kalina. The man decided to contribute to the development of the site and wrote his own guide to replacing the thermostat. With the permission of the author, some points have been edited and structured for easier reading.

Sooner or later, all Kalinovods encounter a problem when the engine overheats. One of the reasons for this may be a non-functioning thermocouple, which, depending on the resistance, should open the damper to supply antifreeze. In this article, I will tell you how to properly approach replacing a thermostat. To get started, you need to prepare the tools, and about them in order:

• The set of tools is the simplest without unnecessary bells and whistles
• Candle key
• Wire
• Metal clamps (for replacement. If you don’t want to, don’t change them)
• Compressor
• Rubber tube
• Gloves. It is necessary so as not to disturb and not get burned
• Antifreeze canister, maybe even empty

Important points when replacing a thermostat

When replacing the thermostat, eliminate the risk of antifreeze getting onto the sensor connectors and into the air path of the Lada Kalina. To prevent such situations, we recommend wrapping electrical connectors and components in plastic bags. Due to the low cost of the thermostat, a more rational action would be to replace the entire thermostat. It is better to purchase original products, since analogues may not match their fastening characteristics (hole diameters, etc.). This will avoid difficult moments during installation.

Checking for correct installation

It is very easy to check the correct installation and operation of the thermostat in the Lada Kalina. Here you will need to warm up the engine and then immediately turn it off. Next, open the hood and feel for the lower pipe that goes from the radiator to the cooling jacket of the engine block. If it is heated, the thermostat opens, and there is no risk of the Lada Kalina engine overheating. When this phenomenon does not occur, the system components require careful diagnosis. Therefore, it would be a good idea to check the functionality of the new thermostat before installation.

Ambient temperature 0 degrees. There is no (strong) wind. The warming up speed of a car with Granta SOD is shown in the photo. It is approximately 10 degrees per minute. Started in mode. We wait for 3 minutes and then drive slowly.

For Lada Kalina 1 with naturally Kalinovskaya SOD... a similar experiment was carried out. But since the temperature indicator there is a pointer, I didn’t take a photo. However, after 6 minutes at an ambient temperature of -1, it showed the same slightly more than +50. (Similarly, there was no strong wind. Sorry, there is no anemometer to measure specific speeds.)

There is an opinion on entornets that supposedly converting the SOD to Grant will allow the engine to warm up faster - Bullshit. This gives nothing but hemorrhoids.

In both cases, approximately 10 degrees per minute were recorded. If there is a difference, then you need to catch it using a stopwatch and in any case it will take no more than 1 minute to heat up to +70.

Is it worth converting the car to Grant's SOD? If you have any problems with the heater or the engine cooling system, fix/flush the standard system, and don’t get creative.

Engine cooling system

The internal combustion engine must be intensively cooled. Without this, the unit will overheat and jam. The bulk of the “cooling energy” is required by the cylinder head and block. While small power engines can be cooled using an air flow, more powerful, multi-cylinder power plants cannot be brought to an optimal temperature without using a liquid cooling system.

• a cooling jacket through which liquid flows, taking away excessive heat from the cylinders;
• a pump that forces antifreeze to move through the cooling system;
• a thermostat that regulates the temperature by adjusting the flow of coolant in a small or large circle;
• fan and radiator, causing the liquid to cool faster as it moves around a large cooling circle;
• heater radiator that heats the interior of the car;
• connecting hoses and pipes connecting all devices into a single cooling system.

As mentioned above, the thermostat is responsible for movement in a large or small circle. This device is a spring-loaded valve with a thermocouple placed in a housing with several pipes. Under the influence of high temperature, from +85 °C to +90 °C, the technical paraffin contained in the thermoelement expands and opens the valve. Antifreeze begins to flow through the opened hole in a large circle, cooling in the radiator. When the liquid cools, the valve falls into place and the coolant stops flowing into the large circle.

And the story will be about replacing the thermostat of a Lada Kalina car with a thermostat from a Lada Granta.

Briefly about these machines. Both models represent a small class of domestic passenger cars. Kalina was produced from 2004 to 2022, and then it was replaced by Granta. The article will discuss replacing the thermostat that is installed in Kalina with an 8-valve engine with a Lada Grant thermostat.

Why change the Kalina thermostat to a Grantovsky device?

There can be only two reasons why the original thermostat installed on the Kalina is replaced with a device from Grant:

1. Firstly, this is engine overheating when the power plant temperature needle is around +100 °C. This mode of operation can lead to jamming of the pistons.
2. Secondly, there is insufficient heating of the interior in winter. In addition to the fact that it is uncomfortable to be in a cold car interior, this also causes the windows to freeze and you have to drive blindly. And this is a real danger to life.

This is due to the fact that the standard cooling system of the LADA Kalina does not know how to “de-air” itself. That is, if air gets into the small cooling circle, it will no longer be removed from the system. The process grows like an avalanche, air will continue to be sucked in constantly. This leads to the fact that the coolant does not flow to the radiator, the engine overheats, and cold air blows from the stove. The problem is solved by installing a thermostat from LADA Granta. As the owners of Kalina, who decided to take such a step, say, after reinstalling the thermostat, all problems were solved: the cabin became warm, and the engine temperature did not rise above +90 ° C.

How the device works

Photo 2 (Heater valve operation diagram)

Heater valve operation diagram

When the engine is cold, the thermostat valve is in the closed position, and antifreeze circulates in a small circle, passing only through the heater core and through the water jacket of the block. When the engine warms up to operating temperature, the valve opens completely and the liquid begins to circulate in a large circle, passing through the radiator, where it cools. This prevents overheating of the power unit.

In winter, warming up takes less time thanks to the thermostat - the heater radiator heats up earlier, and the cabin becomes warm within a few minutes, while saving fuel. The thermostat must be replaced if, when the temperature reaches 95 degrees or more, the valve does not open - the engine begins to overheat. If the motor, on the contrary, cannot warm up, it means that the device does not close and must also be replaced.

What is needed to reinstall the thermostat from Grant to Kalina

To bring the Kalina engine cooling system to optimal condition you will need:

1. Thermostat. You can easily pick it up at a car dealership with the help of consultants. However, please note that some models have a fitting for heating the throttle device, while others do not. It is better to take it with a fitting, otherwise you will have to perform additional operations to connect the heating hose to the stove pipe.
2. Some experts recommend changing the thermal insert on the Grant device. Supposedly this improves the operation of the thermostat. Others say it's a waste of time and money. If you wish, you can buy a thermocouple, for example, from. The fact that the device will be of this particular brand is not important. You can use thermal inserts from other manufacturers. The main thing here is characteristics and quality. Since the thermal insert assembly will not fit the thermostat from the Grant, you will need to remove the thermoelement from it. This can be done using a hacksaw for metal.

3. In addition to the above, to rearrange the thermostat you will need two studs from the camshaft bed of the “classic”: from VAZ-2101 to VAZ-2107. These fasteners will be needed to secure the Grant thermostat to the Kalina engine. Standard studs will not fit, since the size of the element being installed differs from that installed at the factory.
4. Stove pipes. In principle, their replacement may not be necessary. But practice shows that a long service life leads to the fact that it is better to replace them once work has begun on the cooling and heating system. You will also need a tee, which will need to be cut into the lower pipe of the stove.
5. Lower radiator pipe from LADA Granta.
6. Expansion tank pipe. It fits both Grant and the “ten”.
7. Sealant, clamps and gaskets.

Once everything is prepared, you can proceed to installing the new thermostat. But for this it is still necessary to carry out preparatory measures.

Preparing to install the thermostat

First you need to remove the standard Kalina thermostat. Before this, the battery, air filter and pipe leading to the gas throttle are removed. Having finished with the air filter, begin to drain the antifreeze from the cooling system. It is better to place a basin under the engine, so the coolant will not spill.

After loosening the clamps, remove all pipes from the thermostat. Then they begin to unscrew the nuts on the studs. Unscrew the nuts and remove the thermostat. This completes the procedure for dismantling the old device. Preparations begin for installing the thermostat from the Granta car. To do this, you need to unscrew the old studs. This is easy to do with a hairpin driver, but if you don’t have such a wrench, you just need to screw a nut onto the hairpin, and then another one. Pull them tightly and unscrew them using a regular wrench. After removing the old studs, clean the thermostat installation site from old sealant and gasket residues. This is where the preparation ends.

Installation of a thermostat from Grant

Before installing a new temperature-maintaining device, the studs from the camshaft of “classic” VAZ models are screwed in. All heels have triangular cutouts at one end. This is how manufacturers mark the end that screws into the engine block. Sealant is applied to the junction of the thermostat and the engine and a gasket is installed. The following installation steps:

1. The thermostat is mounted on studs and screwed with nuts.
2. A pipe is removed from the lower outlet of the stove in order to insert a tee into it, another outlet of which will be connected by a pipe to the expansion tank.

3. After completing this procedure, the pipe is put in place, connecting the thermostat and the stove. A pipe leading to the expansion tank is put on the outlet of the tee and secured with a clamp. Air will be removed from the cooling system through it.
4. A Grant hose is installed, running from the lower radiator pipe to the thermostat. It fits almost perfectly, so there is no need to lengthen or shorten anything.
5. All that remains is to secure all the pipes with clamps, install the air filter, battery and add antifreeze.

If everything is done correctly, the engine will stop heating and will not raise the temperature needle close to critical values. And the car interior will be warm, even in the coldest weather.

Sequencing

1. We place the car within the perimeter of the repair area.
2. Loosen the clamp of the air supply pipe (Phillips screwdriver).
3. Remove the mass air flow sensor (MAF).
4. We unscrew the expansion tank cap and remove the vacuum.
5. We unscrew the three clamps on the cooling system distributor and pour the waste into a plastic container (about 3 liters).

Preparatory processes before installation

Note to the driver! If the drained antifreeze is free of sediment, it can be reused later. Otherwise, replace the entire cooling system fluid.

1. We press the block with wires from the engine control unit, disconnect the temperature sensor terminal.
2. Using a key set to “13”, unscrew the negative terminal and remove it from the regulator body.

1. Using the “8” head, we loosen the clamps of the supply pipe – the antifreeze return to the radiator.

Supply pipe clamps

1. Remove the rubber pipes from the regulator.

Disconnect the rubber pipes

1. Using the “13” socket, unscrew the two nuts that secure the thermostat to the wall of the cylinder block.

Two nuts - clamps to the block

1. We remove the mechanism from its normal place and clamp it in a vice for preventive maintenance.

Clamp in a vice

1. Using a Torx T-30 wrench, unscrew the three screws of the cover and remove it.

Removing the cover

1. The connection between the cover and the body is sealed with a rubber gasket. We inspect it, if there is mechanical damage or deformation, we replace it with a new one.

1. We grab the spring with pliers, press it, and release the metal plate.

Metal plate

1. Release the regulator bottle.

Regulator bottle

1. To check the functionality of the distributor, lower it into a container of water, gradually heat it up, bring it to a temperature of 85 - 90°C. We observe the movement of the rod. In good condition, it will move closer to the top.

Temperature adjustment

1. We assemble the parts in the reverse order and install them in their original place.

Note to the driver!

At a water temperature of 96 – 98°C, the cylinder rod should fully extend to a distance of at least 8.0 mm. We replace the sealing ring with a new one. Before installation, clean the surface of the cylinder head from possible deposits.