CVT or automatic: which is better, more reliable, what is different from a robot, mechanics, comparative characteristics of the gearbox, reviews

In the list of characteristics taken into account when buying a car, the issue of the engine-transmission combination is one of the fundamental ones. The pros and cons of mechanics, a variator, a robot, a classic automatic transmission are a subject of not only personal sympathy, but also an ongoing dispute in the community of car enthusiasts. Let's figure out which gearbox is better for quiet movement around the city, dynamic driving and off-road driving. Each of the listed transmissions has advantages and disadvantages due to design features,

Design and operation of the variator

The variator structurally consists of:

driving/driven pulleys, shafts;
steel belt;
starting clutch (centrifugal, multi-disc, electromagnetic, torque converter);
planetary gear satellite;
oil pump;
bearings;
hydraulic unit;
crankcase with magnets for filling transmission fluid;
differential;
planetary gearbox.

There are several types of variators. The most common among them is the V-belt mechanism. The pulleys in it consist of 2 cone-shaped disks with a slope towards the shaft axis. When moving, they are able to move or move apart.

A metal belt consisting of pushing segments is stretched and clamped between the halves of the variator pulleys (they create rotation by clinging to the body of the cones with a toothed surface). When the pulleys move apart, the belt goes inward, and when brought closer it takes on the shape of a wedge. The gear ratio changes by increasing or decreasing the diameters of the conical disks.

At the beginning of the movement, the cones of the driving pulley diverge, and the cones of the driven pulley converge. As speed increases, the reverse process occurs. As a result, the gear ratio changes downward, the traction force decreases, and the speed on the driven shaft increases.

The software part processes the information and changes the operating mode of the CVT variator. The differential distributes torque to the driving wheels of the car. The oil sump serves as a support and protection for the working mechanisms and is used to store transmission fluid, without timely replacement of which the variator will not last long.

By what signs can you determine that the variator has failed?

Signs of main variator failures:

slipping or inability to move away - malfunctions in the variator control module, a defect in the variator transmission (belt slipping between the pulley cones), malfunction of the torque converter, main drive clutch, electro-hydraulic system;

jumps and jerks during operation - the oil pump pressure relief valve is jammed;

stopping the car - wear on the torque converter pump wheel;

the car is moving in neutral - defects in the electrical wiring, gear selector, variator control module;

A hum unusual for a vehicle is the wear of the cone bearings.

The service life of a CVT variator depends on correct operation and regular maintenance. Manufacturers of CVT transmissions recommend changing the belt and transmission fluid in a timely manner (on average after 40 thousand kilometers).

We invite you to watch a video tip on how to operate a variator.

If you have no experience in solving problems with a variator, you can contact the “Cvariator Repair Center No. 1”. Our specialists will help you diagnose and fix problems in a short time. You can get additional information by calling: Moscow –, St. Petersburg – 8. We accept calls from all regions of the country.

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CVT device

RESULT

If you look at the results, it turns out that not everything is so clear. Despite the fact that the mechanics do not provide comfort, fuel economy, although at a good level, is still less than that of a two-disc robot, it scores 2.5 points! The result is high and this transmission will definitely have fans.

The variator and single-disc robot scored the least, they have too many controversial issues (2 points each)

The highest scores were achieved by a conventional automatic transmission (automatic transmission) and a double-disc robot (3 points each). If you look at various rankings (not mine), they are also at the top.

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Automatic transmission operation

A classic automatic transmission consists of:

torque converter (clutch);
planetary gearbox;
hydraulic system;
electronic control unit.

The automatic transmission works as follows:

When the engine starts, the oil pump is activated to create liquid pressure in the AT.
The pump wheel of the torque converter spins up at the speed of the crankshaft (the turbine and reactor wheels are stationary at this time).
The driver presses the gas pedal and changes gears. The engine spins together with the pump wheel, from the blades of which oil is thrown towards the turbine, causing it to rotate. The lubricant then returns to the pump wheel and speeds it up.
The oil passes through the machine's radiator.
Free disks and gears rotate in a planetary gearbox (fixed clutches are attached to the box body).
The electrical unit determines the vehicle speed and the load of the power unit based on sensor readings and transmits a signal to change gears to the valve body. The oil pump then supplies operating pressure to the hydraulic system channels.
From the oil pump, the technical fluid passes to the valve body, the solenoid opens, passing it to the planetary link. The liquid presses on the pistons, compressing the friction discs.
An element of the planetary gear, rigidly connected to the clutch (for example, a crown), is blocked; torque is transmitted through the carrier or sun gear. The rotation speed and transmitted force of the output shaft changes. At the same time, the elements of the previous transmission of the machine are unlocked.

Automatic transmissions with manual control mode (Autostick, Tiptronic) allow the driver to independently adjust the speed limit, but the switching process itself occurs under the control of the electric unit.

What machine malfunctions occur most often?

Malfunctions of the machine are expressed in the inability to switch gearbox operating modes or in the blocking of one of the gears. The causes of breakdowns may be in the mechanical and electronic parts of the automatic transmission. This:

Automatic transmission

malfunction of the torque converter and automatic locking clutch;

wear of shafts, gears, friction elements;

clogging of oil channels;

failure of the valve body and oil pump;

failure of the machine's actuators, control system sensors or controller;

breaks, short circuits in the electrical wiring of the machine.

The service life of the machine depends on the nature of the vehicle’s operation, timely and competent maintenance. In accordance with the recommendations of the vehicle manufacturer, it is necessary to periodically change the oil and regularly undergo diagnostics at a service station to monitor the condition of the oil receiver and radiator.

Robot

A robotic gearbox is an attempt by designers to combine a manual transmission with an automatic transmission. The principle of operation of this device is that it is almost no different from the principle of operation of mechanics, but the speeds are switched automatically by a special control unit on a servo drive. Here the driver will feel the usual pause at the moment of switching and a number of other obvious signs of “mechanics”. In addition, this gearbox provides the ability to switch to full manual control. Today such a box can be found on cars of any class, from budget to premium.

How does a manual transmission work?

The mechanics are simple. The body contains:

primary, secondary, intermediate shafts with gears, additional shaft and reverse gear;
synchronizer clutches;
differential;
crankcase;
gear shift rod and fork;
crankcase (half filled with transmission fluid).

On top of the box there is a gear selection mechanism with locking and locking devices. The gear shift lever is located in the cabin and is capable of moving in the longitudinal and transverse directions.

During operation, torque from the engine is transmitted through the clutch to the input shaft. The rotation speed is converted by the helical gears and then transmitted to the wheels. If the gear increases torque, then the engine speed decreases (and vice versa). In the classic case, 2 or 3 shafts are used for this.

The selection of the desired pair of gears to transmit the required torque under certain driving conditions is done using shift forks, which are driven by a selector.

Manual transmission

The following malfunctions are typical for manual transmissions:

knocking noise when driving and changing gears;

impossibility or difficulty of switching on speeds;

oil leak from the crankcase;

spontaneous switching off of gears.

Such problems arise due to wear of gearbox parts, loosening of fixing bolts and nuts, so a car with manual transmission requires timely maintenance.

Drawing conclusions

What are the differences between a variator and a robot, and which of these gearboxes is better? A variator is a type of automatic transmission, while a robot is still closer to mechanics. It is on this basis that you should make a choice in favor of one gearbox or another.

Preferences in choosing a gearbox usually come from the driver himself and are based on his requirements for the car, as well as his driving style. Are comfortable driving conditions important to you? Then choose a CVT. Do you prioritize reliability and the ability to drive in difficult road conditions? Your choice is definitely a robot.

When choosing a car, the driver must personally “try out” both transmission options. It should be remembered that both the robot and the variator have their advantages and disadvantages. The purpose for which you plan to use the car will also help you make your choice. In a calm city rhythm, a CVT will be preferable to a robot, which simply will not “survive” in endless traffic jams. Outside the city, in difficult road conditions, when driving at high speeds or when driving sportily, a robot will be preferable.

Comparative characteristics of types of gearboxes

Type of gearbox	Options	Resource (km)	Economical	Exploitation	Advantages	Flaws
Hydromechanical automatic	Depending on multi-stage	About 500,000	High fuel consumption	Automatic is the best option for driving around the city (especially in traffic jams)	Versatility Ease of operation Large off-road capability Reliability Protection of the engine and chassis from overloads Maintainability	Slow acceleration Expensive maintenance
Variable speed drive	Weight 40-60 kg	On average 220,000 - 240,000	Low fuel consumption	Driving around the city and on the autobahn	Quick acceleration Improved traction and no jerking during acceleration Smooth ride A large number of options for changing the gear ratio	The variator requires the use of special oil Cannot be repaired High maintenance costs Noise from operation is noticeable in the cabin
Robot	Depending on the drive, speed switching	Up to 250000	Low fuel and oil consumption	Roads with good hard surface	Long service life Maintainability Low cost	Delay when switching gears Reduced service life when driving in traffic jams Clutch overheating Jerks and jerks when switching
Mechanics	Depends on the number of steps	Average 500000	Average fuel consumption Low - oil	City limits Autobahn Off-road	Good acceleration High efficiency Quick winter starting Durability Unlimited towing and fast driving capabilities Low price	Difficulty of operation Possible overloads Constant use of the lever and pedals When starting, the car rolls back

If you look at the table, which box do you think is better? Write in the comments.

Pivot table

In the end, I want to put all the pros and cons in a table and see who scored the most. Plus is one point, minus is no point, plus and minus are 0.5 points.

Mechanics (manual transmission)	Automatic (automatic transmission)	CVT (CVT)	Robot (manual transmission), one disc	Robot (manual transmission), two disks
Price	+	—	—	+,-	—
Comfort	—	+	+	—	+
Reliability	+	+	+,-	+,-	—
Savings (fuel)	+,-	—	+,-	+,-	+
Development potential	—	+	—	+,-	+
TOTAL (in points)	2,5	3	2	2	3

Now we are watching the video version.

What is the difference between a CVT, an automatic, a robot and a manual - which gearbox is better and more reliable?