How does the VAZ 2107 really differ from the VAZ 2105?


Comparison of dimensions, mmLada 2105 Lada 2107
Modification1st generation, 10.1979 — 01.2012, 1.5 l., 71 hp., Gasoline, manual transmission, Rear-wheel drive select another1st generation, 03.1982 - 04.2012, 1.5 l., 68 hp., Gasoline, manual transmission, Rear-wheel drive select another
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Country of assemblyRussiaRussia
Secondary market price~50,000q ~ 45,000 q
Fuel type Gasoline AI-92 Gasoline AI-92
Body type Sedan Sedan
Transmission type Manual transmission 5 Manual transmission 5
type of driveRear (FR)Rear (FR)
Engine capacity, cc14521452
Power 71 hp68 hp
Maximum torque, N*m (kg*m) at rpm. 112 (11) / 3500104 (11) / 3500
Fuel tank volume, l3939
Number of doors44
Trunk volume, l379379
Acceleration time 0-100 km/h, s1717
Weight, kg 9761060
Body length41454145
Body height14461446
Wheelbase, mm24242424
Ground clearance (ride height), mm170170
Fuel consumption, l/100 km8.8 8.5
Rear wheels175/70 R13175/70 R13
Number of places 5 seats 5 seats
Owner reviews Lada 2105, 1st generation, 10.1979 - 01.2012

VERY cheap to service, can be repaired on the highway.

Lack of dynamics, lack of comfort, low quality of spare parts

During the 8 years of use it was changed: rear axle gearbox twice, axle shaft assembly, shock absorbers twice, ball joints and silent blocks 3 times, crosspiece, gearbox repair. That's all, except for consumables, the engine has not been repaired and to this day the mileage is more than 230 thousand km. The car has been used by its brother for more than 5 years

Warm interior

Chassis

Passable

Comfort

Lada 2107, 1st generation, 03.1982 - 04.2012

Although the “tank” is not for women, I’m already used to it. When I sat down with her for the first time (she neighed like a horse), I don’t know why...probably because she was tossed in all directions. I live in a rural area not far from the city, so I have to drive over bumps, around the city, and on the highway. There are no problems driving around the collective farm, because... The suspension is soft, in the city it hasn’t gone anywhere yet, but on the highway it’s amazing! It throws its ass in all directions, holds the road poorly, and has difficulty taking turns. But really, I’m not afraid that it will break and I’ll get into money or lose money (because of the relaxed handbrake, I kissed the fence =)

I don’t know about other drivers, but after driving a “bucket” my back hurts terribly = (the lighting in the low beam is bad, I constantly have to peer at the road, almost into a hickey with the windshield. The turn signals always fail at the wrong time. There was no protection, so when I was driving along the highway in the pouring rain in extreme conditions, water poured straight into my face through the steering wheel and from under the gearbox almost…..well…well, it’s okay, the car is still fire, I can’t even dream of anything better, and I drive I’ve been using it professionally for 2 years already (not like chickens on automatic machines). Sorry to anyone I offended =))))))))))))))))

this fucking 4-mortar, I suffered! From third I changed it to 5 and (fire!) I changed: starter, retractors, chocolate bar, pendulum, anchor, fuel pump, brushes, oil, float, steering wheel (the old one broke while driving, I drove home using the key - this you should have seen it!), brake pads, the generator was rebuilt twice, but the engine runs like a clock, doesn’t consume oil. The brakes are of course lousy, you have to brake almost a kilometer away.

Durable, the engine always starts in a jiffy

Cheap to maintain

Fuel consumption, brick aerodynamics. Quality of spare parts

Cheap spare parts

Breaks often

Appearance

The exterior of the cars is practically the same, only a closer look reveals some differences. The 2107 radiator grille is made of plastic with a special chrome-plating coating; the 2107 has a nondescript version made of non-shiny black plastic. From a practical point of view, a “chrome” grille will be more susceptible to wear and corrosion, and with each washing process the coating will oxidize and then fall out.


VAZ 2105

The trunk lid of the 2107 looks more solid, thanks to the stamped relief, while the 2105 has a completely flat shape. The hood of the car also has minor differences in external similarity; in 2107 it has several additional bulges.


VAZ 2107

The head optics of the 7th model Zhiguli are equipped with a reflective element, which has both a visual difference from the 5th model and a brighter and more directional luminous flux. The 2107's taillights have a square rear light zone, while the 2105's are rectangular. The bumpers of the seventh model are made of carbon steel, while those of the five are aluminum.

The hood and trunk lids of VAZ models differ in the form of stamping. In the “seventh” model of the Lada, the hood lid has a higher relief than the hood of the VAZ 2105. And the trunk lid, on the contrary, in the seventh model has a flat surface, and on the “five” the lid is a stamped part with recesses.

Lada bumpers are made of different alloys. The “five” has both bumpers made of aluminum, while the VAZ 2107 has two bumpers made of carbon steel.

VAZ-2104 / 2105 / 2107 what is the difference?

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    Five is a cheap sedan with a crap rusting body

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    I don’t know how things are now. But the 7ka was made for export, therefore the quality of the car is better than the 5ka. From the beginning of production, the 5ka was made of bad metal and therefore the body began to quickly rust and all sorts of other things. I don’t know how things are now with the new ones. But with It looks like the new 7s have become worse than those released before (IMHO)

    the 7 has a better interior and I heard that the metal on them was more expensive, all the 5's that I saw are rusty, after 3 years they start to rot, the 4's are the same 5's in quality, only the body shape is station wagon

    Gentlemen, you are so big, but you believe in fairy tales. Open the spare parts catalog on 04-05-07. The bodywork is the same, with the exception of parts that differ in shape. The metal and paint are absolutely identical. The difference: the four is a station wagon, the seven is a different “face”, a more expensive interior, the five is a cheaper interior (a different front panel, there is no tachometer, a different layout of the heater pipes, before there were different seats, cheaper ones, now they put seven seats for the purpose of unification, rear sofa on the five without armrest). There are no other differences! The best metal or the best color is a myth. Everything is assembled on one conveyor belt from the same spare parts.

    And seven and five and four come from the same assembly line. The seven has better geometry. And the metal on them is the same.

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    Interior

    The interior of the VAZ seventh model is distinguished by the presence of additional functional options:

    • The seats for the driver and passengers of the VAZ 2107 are equipped with headrests, which the Lada “fifth” model cannot boast of.
    • In the 7's interior heating system, air is taken in through a central air duct in the engine compartment. For the “five” heating system, the air passes through the radiator.
    • The dashboard of the Lada “seventh” model has a tachometer and a fuel economy sensor.
    • On the very first VAZ 2107 cars, produced in the 80s, brake pad wear and engine oil pressure sensors were installed.
    • The VAZ 2107 car had speedometers with a marked scale up to 180 km/h. On the “fives” the speedometers are marked up to 160 km/h.
    • The VAZ 2107 interior is equipped with cold air flow deflectors responsible for ventilation.
    • On more modern versions of the VAZ 2107, the visual appearance of the door trim, headliner, and plastic trim on the rear pillars has changed.
    • Initially, the “seven” was distinguished by a new radio panel, the shape of the steering wheel, and the appearance of the gear shift lever. Subsequently, these innovations also affected the interior of the Lada “fifth” model.
    • On the central console of the VAZ 2107 there is a clock and there are connections for the car radio. The “five” only has an inconveniently located hole for installing a radio.

    In the fifth version, these options are missing, there is only an inconvenient cutout for the car radio. The interior heating system in the VAZ 2105 model takes air directly from the heater radiator; in the 2107, the air enters directly through the central air duct, through an opening in the engine compartment.

    What is the difference between the VAZ 2105 and the VAZ 2107

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    There are not very many differences between the five (VAZ-2105) and the seven (VAZ-2107). Looking at these two cars, we can say that they are the same model. But no, there are a lot of differences that will become noticeable gradually. The Seven is a luxury version of the outdated Five. It has many improvements that drivers are not even aware of. Five is a cross between the VAZ-2101 and VAZ-2107. In terms of convenience, it’s better than a penny, but a little worse than a seven.

    Engine

    The Lada seventh model is equipped with both carburetor and injection engine modifications. In the carburetor version, the VAZ 2107 has an advantage in power by 8 horsepower, its power unit produces 77 horses, and the 2105 engine produces 69. In addition, the seven has an increased piston stroke and cylinder diameter, in the proportion: 67x69 to 80x76, respectively. The displacement of VAZ carburetor engines of the seventh model can be from 1.3 to 1.7 liters, depending on the modification, the five also have several modifications from 1.2 liters to 1.6, there are 2105 with an engine capacity of 1.45 liters , but this is a rare option.

    Wheel rim parameters for model 2108

    Like the 2107, the 2108 featured 13-inch forgings from the manufacturer. On the Lada Nine (VAZ 2109) with five doors, R13 wheel products were also used.

    Tire parameters: 165/70/R13, 175/70/R13.

    However, unlike the seven, the eight used discs with the following parameters:

    • width 5J;
    • departure ET40;
    • drilling 4×98;
    • diameter of the central hole is 58.6 mm.

    Also, depending on the modification, wheels with sets of tires could be used on the eight and nine:

    Injection system

    VAZ 2107 cars have recently been produced with an injection engine with a power of 73 and 77 l/s, with a displacement of 1.6 liters. The injection version has an electrically driven fuel pump and a main electronic engine control unit, which is responsible for the operation of many vehicle systems. Fuel consumption has decreased significantly compared to the carburetor version.

    Both car models are equipped with a manual transmission system, with four or five gears, depending on the modification. They have a single-disc clutch type and rear-wheel drive with a cardan drive. The brake system of 2105 and 2107 is identical, the rear wheel brakes are drum type, the front wheels are disc brakes. Both cars are equipped with standard 13-inch wheels.

    Selection of carburetor for VAZ 2101-2107

    An engine is a complex mechanism that is sensitive to the quality of the prepared fuel-air mixture. The air-to-gasoline ratio greatly affects speed characteristics. The more air, the worse the car accelerates and the fuel consumption increases. An excess of the latter leads to the same result. The resulting soot from unburned gasoline covers all engine parts, worsening heat transfer and causing the engine to “boil.” Therefore, the carburetor is selected according to the engine size:

    1. "Ozone 2105" is intended for engines with a volume of 1200, 1300 cm 3.
    2. "Ozone 2107" - 1500 and 1600 cm 3.
    3. "Solex 21053" - 1500, 1600 cm 3.
    4. "Solex 21073" - 1600, 1700 cm 3.

    But it’s better to entrust its selection and configuration to a specialist because it will be easier, faster and cheaper than doing everything yourself.

    VAZ-2105 and 2107 are largely identical cars, differing from each other in body parts, an improved instrument panel and an improved interior.

    Other characteristics

    1. The acceleration of the VAZ 2107 model to “hundreds” thanks to a more powerful engine is 15 seconds versus 18 seconds for the “five”.
    2. The maximum speed that the Lada “seventh” model can reach is 155 km/h. For the VAZ 2105 this figure is 145 - 150 km/h.
    3. The weight of the cars differs slightly. “Five” weighs 995 kg, “seven” - 1035 - 1050 kg, unlike the modification. The carrying capacity of both cars is 400 kg.
    4. The ground clearance of the VAZ 2107 is 175 mm, which is 5 mm more than that of the opponent.
    5. Cars have differences in the electrical system layout.
    6. The price of a VAZ 2105 in the last years of production of the car (2009 – 2010) was about 175 thousand rubles. VAZ 2107 cost about 190 thousand rubles.

    Quick comparison table

    Despite the many years that have passed since the start of production, both sedan models remain in demand among Russian consumers. You can often find both cars on the secondary market. And to make it easier for potential buyers to make a choice, we will briefly list once again how the VAZ 05 sedan differs from the VAZ 07 model.

    21052107
    modelsimple, standardimproved, used to be luxury
    radiator screenregular plasticimitation chrome coating
    relief decorationon the trunkon the hood
    headlightsordinaryimproved
    bumperaluminumsteel
    seatsordinaryanatomical
    heating systemthrough the head ductthrough the radiator
    fuel consumptionmoreless
    acceleration to 100 km/hfastera little slower
    maximum speedlessmore
    ease of controllowa bit better
    pricelow on the secondary marketa bit higher

    What do the Five and the Seven have in common?

    From a technical point of view, this is one car , and the difference between the base and modified model is minimal. In the modern understanding, the “Seven” is essentially a restyled “Five”, designed to spur the interest of car enthusiasts in the “classic”, which is inferior to the market, and the more promising “Samara”.

    The use of steering rods and worm gears was not modern even in the 1980s. This device had a small resource, and driving such a car required increased attention from the driver. However, the stress when driving was aggravated by the car's ancient suspension, which caused excessive rolliness when cornering . Both the unreliable hydraulic clutch, prone to breakdowns, and the high-temperature-sensitive mechanical fuel pump, which “boiled” at the most inopportune moment on the road, played their role. To keep the “classic” in proper condition, it was necessary to often look under the hood, change the crosspieces and the driveshaft outboard bearing. But in general, these were “family sores” of the “classics”, inherited from its progenitor - FIAT 124. And therefore well known to the average person since the days of “Kopeyka”.

    Simple methods for troubleshooting these cars passed from mouth to mouth for several generations of Soviet and then Russian drivers, which gave rise to legends about field repairs on the knees using improvised means. At the same time, one cannot fail to recognize the exceptional endurance of these machines in the conditions of Russian reality.

    How does the VAZ 2107 really differ from the VAZ 2105?

    There are still people who are ready to buy rear-wheel drive cars from Togliatti in order to drive them for quite a long time. And what? The machine is inexpensive, simple in design, maintenance and even repairs are relatively inexpensive. Someone is nostalgic for the vents on the windows and takes a Lada sixth model, but someone likes the more modern appearance of the VAZ-2107 or VAZ 2105. Externally, these cars are very similar, although there are certain differences.

    So, what is the difference between the VAZ 2107 and the VAZ 2105, we will now tell you in all the main nuances.

    1. Appearance
    2. Salon
    3. Engine

    Appearance

    Let's start, without further ado, with it:

    1. The VAZ 2107 has a chrome-look radiator grille, it protrudes beyond the edge of the hood. The car is somewhat reminiscent of an old Mercedes. The VAZ 2105 has a simply plastic grille, without any hint of any premium materials. In principle, the n7a “face” of the Seven is more beautiful, but the pseudochrome will peel off with every wash.

    2. The VAZ 2105 has stampings on the trunk lid, thanks to which the rear part looks more solid. Let us immediately note the hood of the “Seven” - here, on the contrary, it is embossed, but on the VAZ 2105 this cover is almost flat, without any frills.

    3. Head optics. The headlights of the VAZ 2107 are equipped with different reflectors, as a result of which the light on the Seven is better than on the Five. The rear lights are also slightly different: the reverse light on the VAZ 2107 is rectangular, while on the VAZ 2105 it is square.

    4. Bumpers - they also differ in the material they are made from. So, the VAZ 2107 bumper is made of carbon steel, while on the Five it is aluminum.

    Salon

    If we consider how the VAZ 2107 differs from the VAZ 2105 in terms of interior, we can highlight many key points:

    1. The Seven had anatomical seats along with headrests, which was not the case on the Five.

    2. On the dashboard we see a tachometer.

    3. The first Sevens of the 80s were equipped with brake pad wear sensors, as well as engine oil pressure sensors.

    4. The speedometer of the VAZ 2107 shows up to 180 km/h, while on the Five the instrument scale ends at 160 km/h.

    5. If you don’t know how the VAZ 2107 differs from the VAZ 2107, then even the heating system is different. On the Seven, air intake is realized through the central air duct - the one in the engine compartment. The Five has air flowing through the radiator.

    6. The VAZ 2107 interior has cold air flow deflectors that provide ventilation.

    7. Initially, the Seven had a new radio panel, the steering wheel and gearshift lever were radically different from the “five” controls. Then these innovations came to the showroom of the Zhiguli “zero fifth” model.

    8. The modern VAZ 2107 has a richer interior: here you can find modified door upholstery, ceiling, rear pillars are decorated with plastic linings.

    9. Like the VAZ 2106, there are still watches on the VAZ 2107, but the fifth model of the former Fiat did not receive them.

    10. Song lovers on the road were more pleased with the Seven, since it had outputs for the radio. The owner of the “zero five” sedan received only a nest, and an inconveniently located one.

    Engine

    At first, both engines, of course, had carburetors, and then they became injection engines. But the carburetor VAZ 2107 is 8 hp more powerful than its opponent. – 77 hp is observed here. instead of 69 hp Even on the Semerka, the piston stroke was increased, as well as the cylinder diameter. The proportion was, respectively, 67x69 to 80x76. Meanwhile, VAZ 2107 and VAZ 2105 engines came in whole lines, differing in their volume:

    1. The Seven could have 1.3-1.7 liter units.

    2. The Five could have an internal combustion engine of 1.2-1.6 liters; there was a VAZ 2105 with a 1.45 liter engine, quite rare.

    The modern fuel-injected Seven came with 1.6 liter engines with a power of 73-77 hp. Here we see the electric fuel pump in the tank. Finally, the old mechanical unit has left the structure! By the way, if the power supply “trick” becomes slightly disconnected, then you may not be able to start the car. The operation of many vehicle systems is controlled by an electronic unit. Fuel consumption has become lower, and the engine sounds smoother.

    Seven - restyling of the five? But then why were two cars produced for a long time? Please answer in the comments what you think about this.

    We talked a lot about how the VAZ 2107 differs from the VAZ 2105, and there really are plenty of differences. But there are also similarities:

    1. In fact, the same engines, although modified.

    2. Gearboxes - we won’t go into details, but essentially they are the same. At first there were 4-speed ones. Then cars got five-speed gears

    3. The single-plate clutch of the VAZ 2107 deserves respect, but the hydraulic drive is a weak point.

    4. Cardan transmission and, of course, rear-wheel drive.

    5. The rear disc brakes on the Zhiguli were never replaced by drum brakes, but they were installed on the front even on the VAZ 2101.

    6. R13 stamped wheels.

    7. The carrying capacity of both machines is 450 kg, although the figure is 400.

    8. Identical worm steering mechanism - this solution ceased to be modern at the dawn of the production of both vehicles. The steering wheel is heavy and the handling is imprecise.

    Which one to choose?

    Based on the above, the VAZ-2105 is suitable for those who choose a car for short trips and rarely travel outside their region. An ideal option for rural residents, summer residents, pensioners, students, novice drivers, when there is no point in overpaying for comfort.

    The VAZ-2107 reveals its advantages in practice on a long journey. Suitable for traveling with a small group and family, as well as business and work trips. The five-speed transmission contributes to maximum speed and fuel economy on the highway. Often used as an inexpensive taxi in the provinces and on the periphery of our country.

    These models have great potential for tuning, and are often participants in amateur races and sports competitions, for example, drifting and street racing, but it would seem that the “classics” have long since sunk into oblivion...

    Conclusion - cars 2107 and 2105 have a significant difference, only in the design of the engine, the injection engine is more dynamic and economical than the carburetor engine. The 2107 has a more informative dashboard and is a little more comfortable in the cabin. The cost of 2107 is slightly more expensive, the car looks a little more solid and modern.

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    Let's sum it up

    Those who have had a driver's license for a long time know about the differences between the VAZ 2107 and 2105. But beginners often have doubts about the choice, since distinguishing one car from another is problematic. And there is no particular difference in technical and functional equipment. The main differences relate to the external features of the “seven” and its comfort in terms of landing and control.

    The VAZ manufacturer itself at one time considered the differences between the standard and luxury models significant. But now they have almost leveled out, both models are sold as budget ones.

    VAZ 07 and 05 sedans are among the cheapest cars on the Russian secondary market, but potential buyers should understand that most of these models are many years old. This means that the quality of assembly and functional elements does not meet modern standards; many parts are worn out and require replacement. No matter which of the presented cars you choose, you cannot hope for a 100% safe and comfortable ride.

    If desired, you can do tuning and update the car outside and inside. But this will require additional cash injections, and considerable ones. In this case, a more acceptable option is to purchase a modern car in the appropriate price category.

    History of creation [edit | edit code]

    The VAZ-2107 is a modified luxury version of the VAZ-2105, which, in turn, traces its origins to the Fiat 124, a subcompact family sedan from 1966 (winner of the 1967 European Car of the Year). The VAZ-2107 was exported under the names Lada Nova, Lada Riva, Lada Signet, Lada 1500

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    From 2002 to 2012, the VAZ-21070 (modification of the VAZ-2107) was produced in Ukraine (LuAZ, ZAZ and KrASZ [4]). In May 2008, the assembly of LADA 2107 was launched at Argun in the Chechen Republic [5]. Since March 2011, the production of LADA 2107 has been mastered by the Izhevsk Automobile Plant.

    In April 2012, the AvtoVAZ concern, managed by Igor Komarov, decided to finally stop production of the classic LADA 2107 sedan. This decision was made due to the greatly decreased demand for this model, as well as due to the acceleration of work in Izhevsk to prepare production for the release of the Lada Granta. The last LADA 2107 sedan rolled off the assembly line on April 17, 2012 [6]. In Egypt, LADA 2107 was assembled until the beginning of 2014 [7].

    Production of the 2104 station wagon, unified with the sedan in terms of power plant, exterior and interior of the front part of the body, continued until September 17, 2012 [8].

    In March 2022, the analytical agency Autostat conducted a study [9], according to the results of which the LADA 2107 sedan became the most popular passenger car in Russia. At the time of the study, this model was driven by 1.75 million Russians [10].

    In the movie Spider-Man: Far From Home, this car model was seen in one of the scenes.

    VAZ-2104

    In 1984, the no less popular VAZ 2104 car appeared. It was a five-seater station wagon with a traditional layout, which classified it as the 2nd generation of classic cars, compared to the VAZ-2102. In the same year, the “two” was produced simultaneously with the VAZ 2104. For sale abroad, the “four” was given the name Lada Nova Break. Compared to its predecessor, the VAZ 2104 has been significantly improved. The car acquired straight lines in the body design, special block headlights appeared, which were located behind and in front of the car. In addition, the body was equipped with a more aesthetic aluminum bumper. There are also quite a few new items in the cabin. So, the doors were sheathed with denser material, new seats appeared, and the instrument panel took on a new look. The Four was equipped with an improved rear suspension, and the interior became much more spacious thanks to folding seats. From the very beginning, the car was produced with a 1.3-liter carburetor engine.

    The car was produced abroad in a modification with a 1.7-liter injection engine. In separate series, starting in 1999, the production of the VAZ-21045 car with a diesel engine began. Since the beginning of the 2000th year, the “four” began to be produced in three subtypes: “luxury”, “standard” and “norm”.

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